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Post by 1GrumpyGolfer Wed Sep 10, 2014 3:14 am

GolfChatUK Fantasy League 2013–2014 - Summer/Autumn Session - Event #7

KLM Open

Sep 11 – Sep 14 ___ Kennemer G&CC, Zandvoort, The Netherlands

Tournament value: Weighted 1


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Leaderboard – Final Round

Pos. Name ____________ Cuts _______ Rd1 ___ Rd2 ____ Rd3 ___ Rd4 __ Finish __ Total

1. 1GrumpyGolfer _____ 45 (7/9) ____ 20 ____ 00 ____ 30 ____  00 _____ 90 _____ 185

2. BlueCoverman ______ 50 (8/9) ____ 40 ____ 00 ____ 20 ____  00 _____ 60 _____ 170

3. Mary_S ____________ 45 (7/9) ____ 10 ____ 00 ____ 40 ____  00 _____ 70 _____ 165

4. LadyPutt __________ 50 (8/9) ____ 30 ____ 00 ____ 10 ____  00 _____ 50 _____ 140

5. Davie _____________ 45 (7/9) ____ 30 ____ 00 ____ 10 ____  00 _____ 30 _____ 115

6. SetupDetermines ___ 35 (6/9) ____ 30 ____ 00 ____ 00 ____  00 _____ 25 ______ 90  

7. Redrage ___________ 40 (7/9) ____ 10 ____ 00 ____ 20 ____  00 _____ 15 ______ 85  


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Paul Casey gave Paul McGinley food for thought and he must be wondering whether he has made the right decisions for his captain's picks.  Mary_S was the only one to pick Casey but she didn't have enough backing him up and only Edoardo Molinari finished in the points from the rest of her picks.  BlueCoverman stumbled towards the line but with five picks scoring points it was again a case of not enough quality.  1GrumpyGolfer had five picks score points including three in the top five and that was enough to sneak him to the top of the leaderboard.  LadyPutt had four picks score points and she settles in mid table.  Davie had three picks score points, SetupDetermines had two picks score points, and RedRage had a solitary pick score points.  

Johan Carlsson shot 63 to propel himself into a top five finish.  Marco Crespi shot 77 for the worst round of the day.  Jamie Mcleary finished last.

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Final Round Low Round (10 points)
Johan Carlsson -7
1. None

Final Round Worse Round (10 points)
Marco Crespi +7
1. None

Last Place (10 points)
Jamie Mcleary +9
1. None

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Could Mary_S be making a charge?  The day after Pablo Larrazabal set a course record Paul Casey matches it.  His round of 62 was the lowest on the day and started Mary off on a bumper points haul.  She had two other picks shoot 66 or lower on a day of good scoring.  1GrumpyGolfer was able to match the number of picks scoring points and, along with Mary, is leading the chasing pack.  LadyPutt and Davie slip back after they could only manage to get one pick scoring points.  BlueCoverman had two picks score points and maintains his lead at the top, RedRage moves off of the bottom of the leaderboard after he also had two picks scoring points.  SetupDetermines did not trouble the scorers at this time.

At the other end of the leaderboard Estanislao Goya had a 76 along with Daan Huizing.

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Round 3 Low Round (10 points)
Paul Casey -8
1. Mary_S

Round 3 Worse Round (10 points)
Daan Huizing +6
1. None

Round 3 Worse Round (10 points)
Estanislao Goya +6
1. None

Round 3 Low Scores (10points)
-4 or lower

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The sad BlueCoverman missed out on the full set by the withdrawal, oh, okay shocking first round, of Adrien Saddier. LadyPutt missed out through David Drysdale. Everyone else, except SetupDetermines, have seven picks left.  Category C did for all of us and SetupDetermines also lost one of his Category A picks through Jonas Blixt's bad round 2.

Pablo Larrazabal set a course record with a 62.  Amateur Lars Keunen had the worst round of the day with a 79.  The cut line fell at even par.

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Round 2 Low Round (10 points)
Pablo Larrazabal -8
1. None

Round 2 Worse Round (10 points)
Lars Keunen(Am) +9
1. None

Cut line (5points)
Even or lower

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BlueCoverman has moved into the lead based upon a contentious decision to award him points for a poor round by Adrien Saddier.  Saddier seems to have shot an 82 when maybe himself would have been better but he withdrew instead.  BlueCoverman also had Joost Luiten, who had the low round of the day, and Edoardo Molinari, who along with Peter Uihlein, shot 66.  The Luiten, Molinari combination was quite popular and Davie, LadyPutt, and SetupDetermines are hot on BlueCoverman's heels.  1GrumpyGolfer picked Luiten and Mary_S and RedRage picked one of Molinari or Uihlein.

Saddier's round appears to stand and it was the worst of the day.  

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Round 1 Low Round (10 points)
Joost Luiten -5
1. 1GrumpyGolfer
2. BlueCoverman
3. Davie
4. LadyPutt
5. SetupDetermines

Round 1 Worse Round (10 points)
Adrein Saddier +12
1. BlueCoverman

Round 1 Low Scores (10 points)
-4 or lower

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The European Tour is now in The Netherlands for the KLM Open. The field is headlined by Thomas Bjorn with former winner Miguel Angel Jimenez as the only other representative from the top 50.  The defending champion is Joost Luiten who became the first Dutchman to win since Martin Lafeber back in 2003.  Lafeber is also in the field along with a number of other past champions who include Peter Hanson, Simon Dyson, Darren Clarke, Gonzalo FDez-Castano, David Lynn, Sven Struver, and Jose Maria Olazabal.  Martin Kaymer is the only recent winner not in attendance.  

We are back to our regular three Categories but you still need to pick three, plus reserve, from each one.  The additional cut bonus points are still on offer this time around.  If you get all of your picks through in any category you get a small bonus.  Get all 9 picks through and you get an even bigger bonus.  It's all way down at the bottom in the scoring section if you are interested.

This is a full field with cut event, so cut points will be available; see above.

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Everyone please notify others of changes in field before tournament starts and invalid or incomplete picks from participants.

Rankings based on the Official World Golf Ranking – September 8th 2014:

CATEGORY A

Thomas BJORN 29
Miguel Angel JIMENEZ 35
Joost LUITEN 51
Mikko ILONEN 52
Jonas BLIXT 55
Shane LOWRY 62
Gonzalo FDEZ-CASTANO 65
Marc WARREN 67
Brooks KOEPKA 68
Pablo LARRAZABAL 70
Matteo MANASSERO 85
Paul CASEY 88
Tommy FLEETWOOD 89
Fabrizio ZANOTTI 94
Hennie OTTO 100

CATEGORY B

Thorbjorn OLESEN 104
Chris WOOD 108
David HOWELL 109
Edoardo MOLINARI 110
Ross FISHER 114
Robert KARLSSON 119
David HORSEY 123
Romain WATTEL 125
Thomas AIKEN 129
Simon DYSON 131
Peter UIHLEIN 137
David LYNN 141
Kristoffer BROBERG 142
Tyrrell HATTON 144
Darren FICHARDT 149
Felipe AGUILAR 151
Moritz LAMPERT 153
David LIPSKY 154
Gregory BOURDY 156
Julien QUESNE 157
Peter HANSON 160
Richie RAMSAY 162
Scott JAMIESON 167
Brett RUMFORD 169
Emiliano GRILLO 171
Morten Orum MADSEN 175
Shiv KAPUR 183
Michael HOEY 187
Alvaro QUIROS 189
Nicolas COLSAERTS 191
Anders HANSEN 195
Matthew BALDWIN 198
Robert-Jan DERKSEN 200
Paul WARING 203
Raphael JACQUELIN 205
Andy SULLIVAN 216
Oliver FISHER 219
Marco CRESPI 222
Richard GREEN 223
Gregory HAVRET 229
Jbe' KRUGER 234
Paul LAWRIE 236
Craig LEE 241
Eddie PEPPERELL 243
Eduardo DE LA RIVA 244
Daan HUIZING 247
Wade ORMSBY 249
Maximilian KIEFFER 261
Johan CARLSSON 262
Thomas PIETERS 265
Damien MCGRANE 269
Soren KJELDSEN 272
Stuart MANLEY 276
Andrea PAVAN 277
Graeme STORM 282
Mikael LUNDBERG 284
Lucas BJERREGAARD 285
Magnus A CARLSSON 288
Jin JEONG 292
Padraig HARRINGTON 299
Roope KAKKO 306
Simon KHAN 309
Gaganjeet BHULLAR 315
Ricardo GONZALEZ 322
Tom LEWIS 333
Darren CLARKE 343
Robert ROCK 344
Jorge CAMPILLO 346
Gareth MAYBIN 350
Lee SLATTERY 351
Ricardo SANTOS 352
Daniel BROOKS 358

CATEGORY C

Adrian OTAEGUI 365
Jose-Filipe LIMA 372
Simon THORNTON 373
Richard BLAND 376
Nacho ELVIRA 385
Anthony WALL 390
Matthew NIXON 393
Sam WALKER 397
Sihwan KIM 400
Mikko KORHONEN 401
Daniel IM 406
Chris DOAK 418
Soren HANSEN 430
Brinson PAOLINI 439
James MORRISON 448
David DRYSDALE 450
Peter WHITEFORD 468
Jens DANTORP 475
Mark FOSTER 477
James KINGSTON 482
Victor RIU 484
Gary STAL 486
Carlos DEL MORAL 492
Estanislao GOYA 499
Adrien SADDIER 500
JB HANSEN 501
Jamie MCLEARY 515
John HAHN 535
Matthew FITZPATRICK 537
Francois CALMELS 546
Tim SLUITER 552
Andreas HARTØ 572
Simon WAKEFIELD 585
Jose Maria OLAZABAL 587
John PARRY 588
David HIGGINS 589
Adam GEE 593
Jason KNUTZON 603
Connor ARENDELL 612
James HEATH 633
Peter LAWRIE 640
Edouard DUBOIS 655
Kevin PHELAN 700
Duncan STEWART 712
Alexandre KALEKA 728
Niclas FASTH 793
Jack DOHERTY 810
Wil BESSELING 815
Thomas LEVET 836
Jeev Milkha SINGH 846
Alastair FORSYTH 854
Jose Manuel LARA 879
Maarten LAFEBER 903
Dominic FOOS 1016
Taco REMKES 1234
Robin KIND 1379
Floris DE VRIES 1405
Reinier SAXTON 1446
Jesper BILLING 1560
Sven STRUVER 1560
Inder VAN WEERELT 1560
Patrik SJOLAND 1560
Vince VAN VEEN(AM) N/A
Darius VAN DRIEL(AM) N/A
Jeroen KRIETEMEIJER(AM) N/A
Severiano PRINS(AM) N/A
Ben COLLIER N/A
Kevin REINTS(AM) N/A
Lars KEUNEN(AM) N/A

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RULES

Picking players: Unless stated, pick a total of 9 players as follows:

Pick 3 players from each category, plus a reserve per category.

Event winner: The person with the most total points at the completion of each event will be declared the winner. In case of a tie, those involved will match-off each picks' final position score in descending order. i.e. Player A's best finish vs. Player B's best finish, Player A's 2nd best finish vs. Player B's 2nd best finish, etc... until one's pick finishes better than the other(s).

If there is a tie after all 6 picks have been matched against each other, those involved will be declared co-winners.

Order of Merit: The person with the most total points at the completion of the season will be declared the GolfChatUK Fantasy League Champion. If there is a tie for total points at the completion of the season, those involved will be declared Co-Champions.

Player Withdrawals: If you pick a player who withdraws during a tournament, that player will be treated as nil scoring. If a player withdraws before starting the tournament then your reserve will be put in that player's place. It is up to you to check that your players are in the starting field.

Holidays / Absences: If you will be absent for an upcoming event (e.g holidays) you may post the numbers on the most recent fantasy league event and the respective tournament(s) that apply.  Example: Pick 2 players and 1 reserve from each category and the relative event number or name: Players 4 and 8, reserve 9 from Category A, players 1 and 7, reserve 3 from Category B, players 1 and 2, reserve 12 from Category C, Event #12.

Failure to submit picks: If you do not submit picks you will be awarded zero points.

Deadlines: Picks must ideally be submitted before the first drive is struck on the first day of the tournament. However, late picks submitted after the tournament has begun must be for players who have yet to start (or are not showing a score on europeantour.com, PGATour.com, etc.), and these will not be valid unless they are seconded by any other league member.

All fantasy league disputes and discrepancies will be considered by the League Judge: LadyPutt. All decisions made by the League Judge are final.

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SCORING SYSTEM

______________ Weighted 1 ____ Weighted 2 ___ Weighted 3
Winner ____________ 60 ___________ 120 __________ 180
2nd _______________ 40 ____________ 80 __________ 120
3rd _______________ 30 ____________ 60 ___________ 90
4th _______________ 20 ____________ 40 ___________ 60
5th - 10th ________ 15 ____________ 30 ___________ 45
11th - 15th _______ 10 ____________ 20 ___________ 30
16th - 20th ________ 5 ____________ 10 ___________ 15

Last Place ________ 10 ____________ 20 ___________ 30

Low Round * _______ 10 ____________ 20 ___________ 30
Worse Round * _____ 10 ____________ 20 ___________ 30

Make Cut ___________ 5 ____________ 10 ___________ 15
All Cat A Make Cut _ 5 ____________ 10 ___________ 15
All Cat B Make Cut _ 5 ____________ 10 ___________ 15
All Cat C Make Cut _ 5 ____________ 10 ___________ 15
All 9 Make Cut ____ 20 ____________ 40 ___________ 60

Round 1 Top 5 * ___ 10 ____________ 20 ___________ 30
Round 3 Top 10 * __ 10 ____________ 20 ___________ 30

Low Amateur ** ____ 10 ____________ 20 ___________ 30

* Points awarded for round only
** Where separate Low Amateur is specified in rules


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Post by 1GrumpyGolfer Wed Sep 10, 2014 3:25 am

SetupDeterminestheMotion wrote:Off on Holiday on Friday for 2 weeks with the missus.

So in case I don't have web access can I have the following numbers:

Cat A : 1,3,5 Res 7
Cat B : 2,4,6 Res 8
Cat C : 3,5,7 Res 9

Hasta la vista..

Setup's picks:
Category A: Thomas BJORN, Joost LUITEN, Jonas BLIXT. Reserve Gonzalo FDEZ-CASTANO

Category B: Chris WOOD, Edoardo MOLINARI, Robert KARLSSON. Reserve Romain WATTEL

Category C: Simon THORNTON, Nacho ELVIRA, Matthew NIXON. Reserve Sihwan KIM

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Post by 1GrumpyGolfer Wed Sep 10, 2014 3:28 am

LadyPutt wrote:I thought he had as well and I've found it! He said, on May 30th: "In future if I don't make any selections can my standing numbers be 2,8 and 11 from each category?"

Looks as though Grumps owes him a few points ...... study

Red's picks:
Category A: Miguel Angel JIMENEZ, Marc WARREN, Matteo MANASSERO

Category B: Chris WOOD, Romain WATTEL, Peter UIHLEIN

Category C: Jose-Filipe LIMA, Sam WALKER, Daniel IM

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Post by 1GrumpyGolfer Wed Sep 10, 2014 3:29 am

Getting Red's and Setup's picks out there in good time...

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Post by BlueCoverman Wed Sep 10, 2014 3:58 am

Makes a change Innocent
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Post by 1GrumpyGolfer Wed Sep 10, 2014 4:06 am

I normally like to give folks a chance to make their own picks so Razz

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Post by BlueCoverman Wed Sep 10, 2014 8:20 am

Touchy! GolfChatUK Fantasy League 2013–2014 - Summer/Autumn Session - Event #7 KLM Open 3461234324

Cat A: Fleetwood, Koepka, Luiten (res: Casey)
Cat B: Hatton, Molinari, Ramsey (res: Dyson)
Cat C: Korhonen, Morrison, Saddier (res: Hahn)

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Post by LadyPutt Thu Sep 11, 2014 12:13 am

Don't think I can do it again, but here goes:

Cat A: Joost Luiten, Shane Lowry & Tommy Fleetwood (res Paul Casey)
Cat B: Eduardo Molinari, Tyrrell Hatton & Richie Ramsay (res Andy Sullivan)
Cat C: David Drysdale, Mark Foster & John Hahn (res Richard Bland)

I will be on holiday sunning myself and playing some golf in Tenerife for the next 2 weeks (including the Ryder Cup Rolling Eyes ) so please can you pick me numbers 1, 4 and 7 in each group with 10 as reserve if I don't manage to get my tablet connected to the hotel's wifi? It may be that I have to pass on the RC competition but Cross Fingers  the wifi works!

Thanks Grumps Wave sunny
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Post by BlueCoverman Thu Sep 11, 2014 1:07 am

And what was wrong with my Cat C picks LP? Wink

Where are you playing in Tenerife? I was there in June and played at Golf Las Americas, Golf Adeje and Golf De Sur. All good resort courses, probably Americas was my favourite. Have a good holiday GolfChatUK Fantasy League 2013–2014 - Summer/Autumn Session - Event #7 KLM Open 1927768590
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Post by LadyPutt Thu Sep 11, 2014 1:27 am

GolfChatUK Fantasy League 2013–2014 - Summer/Autumn Session - Event #7 KLM Open 1505004552 I've only just looked at your picks, Blue. Oh well, great minds and all that .....

We're playing those three plus Amarilla which is where I had my third Hole in One in March last year! We've played Golf de Sur before several times but not the other two - what are they like?
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Post by Davie Thu Sep 11, 2014 2:13 am

CATEGORY A: Miguel Angel JIMENEZ, Joost LUITEN, Shane LOWRY (res: Marc WARREN)

CATEGORY B: Thorbjorn OLESEN, David HOWELL, Edoardo MOLINARI (res: Ross FISHER)

CATEGORY C: Richard BLAND, Anthony WALL, Matthew NIXON (res: Chris DOAK)
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Post by BlueCoverman Thu Sep 11, 2014 8:25 am

Played each course twice LP and enjoyed them both. Very similar in length, Americas is 5865 metres off the yellows and 5026 off the reds, Adeje is 5864 and 5076. Good resort courses in the sense that neither has a great deal of punishing rough or huge amounts of water but they both set a reasonable challenge and test of your golfing ability and as you would expect both offer some very picturesque views. I found Americas slightly easier and had a 74 my best round of the week, on Adeje I had my worst round of 86!  

Both clubhouses have good facilities, we tended to play in the afternoons and both served up very nice lunches before starting our rounds. The balcony area overlooking the 18th green and lake on Americas is a particularly pleasant spot to unwind with a drink after your round. All of our party enjoyed the trip and it looks like we will be returning to the same venue next year.
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Post by Mary_S Thu Sep 11, 2014 10:21 am

Cat A: Shane LOWRY; Miguel Angel JIMENEZ; Paul CASEY Res: Brooks KOEPKA

Cat B: Chris WOOD; David HOWELL; Edoardo MOLINARI Res: Richard GREEN

Cat C: Anthony WALL; James MORRISON; Thomas LEVET Res: Chris DOAK

Cheers!
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Post by 1GrumpyGolfer Thu Sep 11, 2014 11:00 am

Cat A: Luiten, Fleetwood, Koepka. Reserve MAJ

Cat B: Hatton, Wattel, Dyson. Reserve Molinari

Cat C: Nixon, Whiteford, Morrison. Reserve Otaegui

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Post by LadyPutt Thu Sep 11, 2014 9:22 pm

Thanks Blue. We're playing Amarilla (probably the easiest but quite a pretty course) on 18th to ease ourselves in, then Adeje on 22nd, Golf del Sur on 24th and Americas on 26th. I've managed to get some good deals with lunch and buggy included (and transfers for Adeje and Americas which are some way away from the hotel at San Blas) and we're doing the 27-hole "marathon" at GdS. It will be interesting to see how we get on because we've only been playing a 9-hole course recently - but then we won't be walking! I'll report back.
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Post by 1GrumpyGolfer Thu Sep 11, 2014 10:08 pm

LadyPutt wrote:
I will be on holiday sunning myself and playing some golf in Tenerife for the next 2 weeks (including the Ryder Cup Rolling Eyes ) so please can you pick me numbers 1, 4 and 7 in each group with 10 as reserve if I don't manage to get my tablet connected to the hotel's wifi? It may be that I have to pass on the RC competition but Cross Fingers  the wifi works!

Thanks Grumps Wave sunny

LP, I'll get your numbers in for next week if you don't make picks.

To give you some thinking time for the Ryder Cup all you need to do is pick the player you think will be the hero for each side (earns the most points for their side) and the player that will be the villain for each side (earns the fewest points for their side). You will also need to declare who will win, a tie is valid, and what the score will be.

Here's an example:

Hero: Donaldson, Walker
Villain: Kaymer, Watson
Result: Europe 15-13

Enjoy your trip

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Post by 1GrumpyGolfer Thu Sep 11, 2014 10:32 pm

Play was suspended after Fabrizio Zanotti was struck on the head by a golf ball. Zanotti was on the 16th fairway when he was hit by a tee shot from the 14th tee.  He received treatment on the course and was then taken to hospital.

http://www.europeantour.com/europeantour/season=2014/tournamentid=2014072/news/newsid=235258.html

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Post by LadyPutt Thu Sep 11, 2014 11:01 pm

Yet another example of players not shouting Fore and just holding an arm out? I'm sure Zanotti wasn't looking for errant tee shots while he was minding his own business playing his own game.
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Post by LadyPutt Thu Sep 11, 2014 11:57 pm

1GrumpyGolfer wrote:
LadyPutt wrote:
To give you some thinking time for the Ryder Cup all you need to do is pick the player you think will be the hero for each side (earns the most points for their side) and the player that will be the villain for each side (earns the fewest points for their side). You will also need to declare who will win, a tie is valid, and what the score will be.

Here's an example:

Hero: Donaldson, Walker
Villain: Kaymer, Watson
Result: Europe 15-13

Enjoy your trip
So, I've had a thought about this scratch  and decided:

Heroes: Sergio Garcia, Jim Furyk
Villains: Lee Westwood, Patrick Reed
Result - USA win 14½ to 13½

Sorry not to be patriotic but I just have a feeling USA will squeak it. Hope I'm proved wrong!
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Post by 1GrumpyGolfer Fri Sep 12, 2014 2:37 am

I have to say that's terrible bad luck Blue. Your pick of Saddier shot an 82 when he should probably have shot himself. He's now withdrawn so that means, unfortunately, no bonus points for you.

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Post by Davie Fri Sep 12, 2014 6:06 am

Poor Blue - I'm sure we're all very sad GolfChatUK Fantasy League 2013–2014 - Summer/Autumn Session - Event #7 KLM Open 3497602689
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Post by BlueCoverman Fri Sep 12, 2014 7:43 am

How's that work then Grumps? scratch He withdrew after he had shot the worst round of the day so surely bonus points should apply?

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Post by 1GrumpyGolfer Fri Sep 12, 2014 7:51 am

Maybe?, Maybe Not.

You could always petition the good Lady Judge, what was it you said recently? Oh yeah, girls are rubbish. Let us know how you get on Innocent

Edit: you may not need to bother the good lady judge. Looking at the leaderboard he's been reinstated at the very bottom GolfChatUK Fantasy League 2013–2014 - Summer/Autumn Session - Event #7 KLM Open 3461234324 The bonus points might be yours. That may all change tomorrow as round 1 was suspended for darkness. Leaderboard update or come then.

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Post by BlueCoverman Fri Sep 12, 2014 8:00 am

Just give us the bonus points and stop your wittering Wink
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Post by LadyPutt Fri Sep 12, 2014 9:20 pm

Go on Grumps - give him his bonus points. His moaning is doing my head in GolfChatUK Fantasy League 2013–2014 - Summer/Autumn Session - Event #7 KLM Open 398825057
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Post by 1GrumpyGolfer Fri Sep 12, 2014 10:03 pm

If I have to but he's now withdrawn, again....

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Post by LadyPutt Fri Sep 12, 2014 10:33 pm

But my understanding is that he withdrew after he'd scored the highest ..... I'm feeling generous.
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Post by 1GrumpyGolfer Fri Sep 12, 2014 11:31 pm

Say it ain't so.

Been working from home the last few days and my laptops at work. Had to recreate my scoring file this morning so I might be a bit late in posting the round 1 update.

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Post by SetupDeterminestheMotion Sat Sep 13, 2014 1:47 am

Have we not at this scenario before and no points were awarded..wd with high score..
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Post by 1GrumpyGolfer Sat Sep 13, 2014 2:24 am

Hope you're enjoying your holiday Setup.

It's quite possible that we have had this happen before with points awarded and no points awarded. I think we need to write this situation into the rules and if the good lady judge agrees points should be awarded then it should read something like this:

If a pick withdraws their round must be completed to be eligible for low or worst round score. Must be able to verify their score.

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GolfChatUK Fantasy League 2013–2014 - Summer/Autumn Session - Event #7

KLM Open

Sep 11 – Sep 14 ___ Kennemer G&CC, Zandvoort, The Netherlands

Tournament value: Weighted 1


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Leaderboard – Round 1

Pos. Name ____________ Cuts _______ Rd1 ___ Rd2 ____ Rd3 ___ Rd4 __ Finish __ Total

1. BlueCoverman ______ XX (X/X) ____ 40 ____ XX ____ XX ____ XX _____ XX ______ 40

2. Davie _____________ XX (X/X) ____ 30 ____ XX ____ XX ____ XX _____ XX ______ 30

2. LadyPutt __________ XX (X/X) ____ 30 ____ XX ____ XX ____ XX _____ XX ______ 30

2. SetupDetermines ___ XX (X/X) ____ 30 ____ XX ____ XX ____ XX _____ XX ______ 30

5. 1GrumpyGolfer _____ XX (X/X) ____ 20 ____ XX ____ XX ____ XX _____ XX ______ 20

6. Mary_S ____________ XX (X/X) ____ 10 ____ XX ____ XX ____ XX _____ XX ______ 00

6. Redrage ___________ XX (X/X) ____ 10 ____ XX ____ XX ____ XX _____ XX ______ 00


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BlueCoverman has moved into the lead based upon a contentious decision to award him points for a poor round by Adrien Saddier. Saddier seems to have shot an 82 when maybe himself would have been better but he withdrew instead. BlueCoverman also had Joost Luiten, who had the low round of the day, and Edoardo Molinari, who along with Peter Uihlein, shot 66. The Luiten, MOlinari combination was quite popular and Davie, LadyPutt, and SetupDetermines are hot on BlueCoverman's heels. 1GrumpyGolfer picked Luiten and Mary_S and RedRage picked one of Molinari or Uihlein.

Saddier's round appears to stand and it was the worst of the day.

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Round 1 Low Round (10 points)
Joost Luiten -5
1. 1GrumpyGolfer
2. BlueCoverman
3. Davie
4. LadyPutt
5. SetupDetermines

Round 1 Worse Round (10 points)
Adrein Saddier +12
1. BlueCoverman

Round 1 Low Scores (10 points)
-4 or lower

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Post by BlueCoverman Sat Sep 13, 2014 8:48 am

1GrumpyGolfer wrote:If a pick withdraws their round must be completed to be eligible for low or worst round score. Must be able to verify their score.


Well obviously the round must be completed. Would hardly be fair if a player withdrew after 9 holes after shooting 59 and then picked up points for low round of the day! GolfChatUK Fantasy League 2013–2014 - Summer/Autumn Session - Event #7 KLM Open 3461234324
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Post by BlueCoverman Sat Sep 13, 2014 8:51 am

Anyway its really SAD that Adrien withdrawing has caused me to miss out on the all make cut bonus... GolfChatUK Fantasy League 2013–2014 - Summer/Autumn Session - Event #7 KLM Open 3461234324
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Post by BlueCoverman Sat Sep 13, 2014 9:09 am

LadyPutt wrote:I'm feeling generous.

Thanks LP I'm glad you're feeling generous and in a good mood and I wish you a lovely holiday.

As for me I'm not in that much of a good mood, feeling a bit gloomy to be honest. My 18 year old son and best mate starts at Bournemouth university this term studying for an economics degree. He moved to the south coast today and we have just got back to Essex after driving him and a Range Rover full of his gear to the house that he is sharing with four other first year students as they prepare for the mayhem that is freshers week. He will have a great time of course and he is looking forward to it but I've been dreading him leaving. We will all miss his cheerful face and happy laughter around the house. Even his 16 year old sister cried when she came home from sixth form college to an empty house tonight!

So I'm sure others on here have been through the same thing. Did you feel the same or were you pleased to see them go?!
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Post by LadyPutt Sat Sep 13, 2014 11:42 pm

1GrumpyGolfer wrote:Hope you're enjoying your holiday Setup.

It's quite possible that we have had this happen before with points awarded and no points awarded. I think we need to write this situation into the rules and if the good lady judge agrees points should be awarded then it should read something like this:

If a pick withdraws their round must be completed to be eligible for low or worst round score. Must be able to verify their score.
Agree - very sensible suggestion!
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KLM Open

Sep 11 – Sep 14 ___ Kennemer G&CC, Zandvoort, The Netherlands

Tournament value: Weighted 1


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Leaderboard – Round 2

Pos. Name ____________ Cuts _______ Rd1 ___ Rd2 ____ Rd3 ___ Rd4 __ Finish __ Total

1. BlueCoverman ______ 50 (8/9) ____ 40 ____ 00 ____ XX ____  XX _____ XX ______ 90

2. LadyPutt __________ 50 (8/9) ____ 30 ____ 00 ____ XX ____  XX _____ XX ______ 80

3. Davie _____________ 45 (7/9) ____ 30 ____ 00 ____ XX ____  XX _____ XX ______ 75

4. 1GrumpyGolfer _____ 45 (7/9) ____ 20 ____ 00 ____ XX ____  XX _____ XX ______ 65

5. SetupDetermines ___ 35 (6/9) ____ 30 ____ 00 ____ XX ____  XX _____ XX ______ 65

6. Mary_S ____________ 45 (7/9) ____ 10 ____ 00 ____ XX ____  XX _____ XX ______ 55

6. Redrage ___________ 40 (7/9) ____ 10 ____ 00 ____ XX ____  XX _____ XX ______ 50


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The sad BlueCoverman missed out on the full set by the withdrawal, oh, okay shocking first round, of Adrien Saddier. LadyPutt missed out through David Drysdale. Everyone else, except SetupDetermines, have seven picks left.  Category C did for all of us and SetupDetermines also lost one of his Category A picks through Jonas Blixt's bad round 2.

Pablo Larrazabal set a course record with a 62.  Amateur Lars Keunen had the worst round of the day with a 79.  The cut line fell at even par.

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Round 2 Low Round (10 points)
Pablo Larrazabal -8
1. None

Round 2 Worse Round (10 points)
Lars Keunen(Am) +9
1. None

Cut line (5points)
Even or lower

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Post by 1GrumpyGolfer Sat Sep 13, 2014 11:58 pm

BlueCoverman wrote:
1GrumpyGolfer wrote:If a pick withdraws their round must be completed to be eligible for low or worst round score. Must be able to verify their score.


Well obviously the round must be completed. Would hardly be fair if a player withdrew after 9 holes after shooting 59 and then picked up points for low round of the day! GolfChatUK Fantasy League 2013–2014 - Summer/Autumn Session - Event #7 KLM Open 3461234324

How about it must be apparent that they finished their round, smart arse Razz?

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Post by BlueCoverman Sun Sep 14, 2014 10:02 am

Much better thanks GolfChatUK Fantasy League 2013–2014 - Summer/Autumn Session - Event #7 KLM Open 1927768590
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Post by Mary_S Sun Sep 14, 2014 8:57 pm

BlueCoverman wrote:Much better thanks GolfChatUK Fantasy League 2013–2014 - Summer/Autumn Session - Event #7 KLM Open 1927768590

Your son will back before you know it, Blue. Better make sure that the beer fridge is fully stocked! Wink

From my experience of Steve disappearing to various countries for several months at a time, I'd say that waving them off does become more routine each time.

Nice round of 62 from Paul Casey yesterday! Innocent
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GolfChatUK Fantasy League 2013–2014 - Summer/Autumn Session - Event #7

KLM Open

Sep 11 – Sep 14 ___ Kennemer G&CC, Zandvoort, The Netherlands

Tournament value: Weighted 1


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Leaderboard – Round 3

Pos. Name ____________ Cuts _______ Rd1 ___ Rd2 ____ Rd3 ___ Rd4 __ Finish __ Total

1. BlueCoverman ______ 50 (8/9) ____ 40 ____ 00 ____ 20 ____  XX _____ XX _____ 110

2. 1GrumpyGolfer _____ 45 (7/9) ____ 20 ____ 00 ____ 30 ____  XX _____ XX ______ 95

2. Mary_S ____________ 45 (7/9) ____ 10 ____ 00 ____ 40 ____  XX _____ XX ______ 95

4. LadyPutt __________ 50 (8/9) ____ 30 ____ 00 ____ 10 ____  XX _____ XX ______ 90

5. Davie _____________ 45 (7/9) ____ 30 ____ 00 ____ 10 ____  XX _____ XX ______ 85

6. Redrage ___________ 40 (7/9) ____ 10 ____ 00 ____ 20 ____  XX _____ XX ______ 70

7. SetupDetermines ___ 35 (6/9) ____ 30 ____ 00 ____ 00 ____  XX _____ XX ______ 65  


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Could Mary_S be making a charge?  The day after Pablo Larrazabal set a course record Paul Casey matches it.  His round of 62 was the lowest on the day and started Mary off on a bumper points haul.  She had two other picks shoot 66 or lower on a day of good scoring.  1GrumpyGolfer was able to match the number of picks scoring points and, along with Mary, is leading the chasing pack.  LadyPutt and Davie slip back after they could only manage to get one pick scoring points.  BlueCoverman had two picks score points and maintains his lead at the top, RedRage moves off of the bottom of the leaderboard after he also had two picks scoring points.  SetupDetermines did not trouble the scorers at this time.

At the other end of the leaderboard Estanislao Goya had a 76 along with Daan Huizing.

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Round 3 Low Round (10 points)
Paul Casey -8
1. Mary_S

Round 3 Worse Round (10 points)
Daan Huizing +6
1. None

Round 3 Worse Round (10 points)
Estanislao Goya +6
1. None

Round 3 Low Scores (10points)
-4 or lower

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GolfChatUK Fantasy League 2013–2014 - Summer/Autumn Session - Event #7

KLM Open

Sep 11 – Sep 14 ___ Kennemer G&CC, Zandvoort, The Netherlands

Tournament value: Weighted 1


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Leaderboard – Final Round

Pos. Name ____________ Cuts _______ Rd1 ___ Rd2 ____ Rd3 ___ Rd4 __ Finish __ Total

1. 1GrumpyGolfer _____ 45 (7/9) ____ 20 ____ 00 ____ 30 ____ 00 _____ 90 _____ 185

2. BlueCoverman ______ 50 (8/9) ____ 40 ____ 00 ____ 20 ____  00 _____ 60 _____ 170

3. Mary_S ____________ 45 (7/9) ____ 10 ____ 00 ____ 40 ____  00 _____ 70 _____ 165

4. LadyPutt __________ 50 (8/9) ____ 30 ____ 00 ____ 10 ____  00 _____ 50 _____ 140

5. Davie _____________ 45 (7/9) ____ 30 ____ 00 ____ 10 ____  00 _____ 30 _____ 115

6. SetupDetermines ___ 35 (6/9) ____ 30 ____ 00 ____ 00 ____ 00 _____ 25 ______ 90

7. Redrage ___________ 40 (7/9) ____ 10 ____ 00 ____ 20 ____  00 _____ 15 ______ 85


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Paul Casey gave Paul McGinley food for thought and he must be wondering whether he has made the right decisions for his captain's picks. Mary_S was the only one to pick Casey but she didn't have enough backing him up and only Edoardo Molinari finished in the points from the rest of her picks. BlueCoverman stumbled towards the line but with five picks scoring points it was again a case of not enough quality. 1GrumpyGolfer had five picks score points including three in the top five and that was enough to sneak him to the top of the leaderboard. LadyPutt had four picks score points and she settles in mid table. Davie had three picks score points, SetupDetermines had two picks score points, and RedRage had a solitary pick score points.

Johan Carlsson shot 63 to propel himself into a top five finish. Marco Crespi shot 77 for the worst round of the day. Jamie Mcleary finished last.

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Final Round Low Round (10 points)
Johan Carlsson -7
1. None

Final Round Worse Round (10 points)
Marco Crespi +7
1. None

Last Place (10 points)
Jamie Mcleary +9
1. None

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Post by Mary_S Mon Sep 15, 2014 7:24 pm

Well played GG!

Really pleased to see Casey playing well again.
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Post by LadyPutt Mon Sep 15, 2014 8:25 pm

A big dose of LPRPitis this week - Casey, Sullivan and Bland all did well GolfChatUK Fantasy League 2013–2014 - Summer/Autumn Session - Event #7 KLM Open 70282223 . Let's see how my "blind" picks do in Wales!
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Post by Mary_S Mon Sep 15, 2014 10:22 pm

LadyPutt wrote:A big dose of LPRPitis this week - Casey, Sullivan and Bland all did well GolfChatUK Fantasy League 2013–2014 - Summer/Autumn Session - Event #7 KLM Open 70282223 . Let's see how my "blind" picks do in Wales!

Enjoy your hols LadyP! sunny
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Post by LadyPutt Fri Oct 03, 2014 11:33 pm

BlueCoverman wrote:Played each course twice LP and enjoyed them both. Very similar in length, Americas is 5865 metres off the yellows and 5026 off the reds, Adeje is 5864 and 5076. Good resort courses in the sense that neither has a great deal of punishing rough or huge amounts of water but they both set a reasonable challenge and test of your golfing ability and as you would expect both offer some very picturesque views. I found Americas slightly easier and had a 74 my best round of the week, on Adeje I had my worst round of 86!  

Both clubhouses have good facilities, we tended to play in the afternoons and both served up very nice lunches before starting our rounds. The balcony area overlooking the 18th green and lake on Americas is a particularly pleasant spot to unwind with a drink after your round. All of our party enjoyed the trip and it looks like we will be returning to the same venue next year.
Well, we survived and enjoyed both courses but preferred Las Americas, apart from the three idiots behind us who hit our buggy twice with tee shots (only called Fore once), and twice had balls land right behind us - and we were waiting for the group in front so they had nowhere to go. Something to do with the fact there were two women playing, I suppose. Anyway, we had the Marshall speak to them twice and then LordPutt went and gave them a piece of his mind and they did eventually back off! The starter was very sweet - we had lunch booked but no time to eat it so he ordered club sandwiches and chips and brought them out to us on the 9th. I managed to par the last 3 holes and just missed a putt for a birdie on the 18th!

The trouble with playing Adeje (and Golf del Sur) was that they had the LET playing the Ladies Tenerife Open which finished on the Sunday and we played on the Monday. The course had been allowed to dry up quite a bit and was a bit tricky, especially on the greens. At Golf del Sur, we had booked their "marathon" - all 27 holes - but when we arrived there were ladies playing the Spanish Open! This meant all the greenfee payers were squashed onto two of the 9s and then there was no room to sit down for our lunch because of the women and their caddies and hangers-on. We then had a row with the pro shop because they said we couldn't play the remaining 9 (the Links course) because it was being prepared for the ladies next day. I stood my ground and we were eventually allowed to play - it was great, we had the course to ourselves (playing with another couple who, co-incidentally live about two miles from us!) apart from a few greenstaff. I couldn't understand why they were cutting greens in the afternoon for next morning's play - surely they would have to cut them again? At least the course was in better condition than it was when we played in March last year and again I managed to par the last 3.

The only disappointment was Amarilla Golf which was in dreadful shape - even the bins were overflowing! We won't be playing there again in a hurry.
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