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Post by 1GrumpyGolfer Tue Nov 05, 2013 2:23 am

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GolfChatUK Fantasy League 2012–2013 - Summer/Autumn Session - Event #15

Turkey Open

Nov 07 – Nov 10 ___ The Montgomerie Maxx Royal, Antalya, Turkey

Tournament value: Weighted 1

 
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Leaderboard – Final Round

Pos. Name ____________ Cuts _______ Rd1 ___ Rd2 ____ Rd3 ___ Rd4 __ Finish __ Total

1. Mary_S ____________ XX (X/X) ____ 30 ____ 00 ____ 10 ____  00 _____ 75 _____ 115

2. Redrage ___________ XX (X/X) ____ 10 ____ 10 ____ 00 ____  10 _____ 80 _____ 110

3. Davie _____________ XX (X/X) ____ 10 ____ 00 ____ 20 ____  00 _____ 75 _____ 105

4. LadyPutt __________ XX (X/X) ____ 10 ____ 00 ____ 10 ____  10 _____ 60 ______ 90

5. SetupDetermines ___ XX (X/X) ____ 00 ____ 10 ____ 00 ____  00 _____ 70 ______ 80

6. 1GrumpyGolfer _____ XX (X/X) ____ 30 ____ 00 ____ 10 ____  00 _____ 35 ______ 75

7. BlueCoverman ______ XX (X/X) ____ 20 ____ 10 ____ 00 ____  00 _____ 35 ______ 65

 
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A thrilling final day saw the lead be shared at one point by two GolfChatUK Fantasy League picks in the closing stages of the Turkish Open.  In the end it wasn't to be for Jamie Donaldson and Justin Rose as the 18th saw their fortunes finish in differing fashions; a two putt birdie for Donaldson and a three putt bogey for Rose after a poor drive.  Donaldson's birdie meant he posted round of the day which also included shot of the day at the par 3 16th, a cheeky little 1; wonder if he matched BlueCoverman?  Donaldson earned points for LadyPutt and RedRage.
 
The chopping and changing on the leaderboard also had the GolfChatUK Fantasy Leaguers jockeying for position and everyone scored finish points.  BlueCoverman had two picks score points, 1GrumpyGolfer, LadyPutt, and SetupDetermines all had three picks score points and they finished in the mid and lower table range.  RedRage also had three picks score points including a 2nd and 3rd and he scored the most points through finish placings and that rocketed him up the table.  Davie and Mary_S had five picks score points and it led to a very close finish; in the end the bang that Mary_S returned with echoed significantly and she took victory from RedRage with Davie in third place.
 
In a surprising finish Turkish chopper Ali Altuntas only bogied his last hole allowing Simon Khan to take the worse round dishonours by one shot with a 76.  Altuntas had pretty much wrapped up last place before the final round and was the only to be double digits over par.
 
The European Tour Series Finals end next week in Dubai with the DP World Tour Championship and so does the GolfChatUK Fantasy League for 2012-2013.
 
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Final Round Low Round (10 points)
Jamie Donaldson -9
1. LadyPutt
2. RedRage
 
Final Round 3 Worse Round (10 points)
Simon Khan +4
1. None
 
Last Place (10 points)
Ali Altuntas +23
1. 1GrumpyGolfer
 
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The fine golf continued and the course record was equalled and also broken in round 3. Victor Dubuisson shot 63 to take a 5 shot lead into the final round but finishing before him was Raphael Jacquelin who shot 62 including a double bogey on one of the par 3s. Rounds of 66 or better got you into the Top 10 Low Round Scores and three picks were among them earning points for Mary_S, LadyPutt, and Davie who had two of the three.  1GrumpyGolfer earned another 10 points through a last hole collapse by Ali Altuntas who had a double bogey on his final hole to sink to a 79 and sole possesion of the worse score.
 
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Round 3 Low Round (10 points)
Raphael Jacquelin -10
1. None
 
Round 3 Worse Round (10 points)
Ali Altuntas +7
1. 1GrumpyGolfer
 
Round 3 Low Scores (10 points)
-6 or lower
 
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The great scoring continued with almost two thirds of the field under par in round 2.  There were almost 30 rounds in the 60s and a number of them came from GolfChatUK picks.  Best of the bunch today was from Tiger Woods who still can't match BlueCoverman on the 18th.  His round of 63 included just a birdie on the last to cement low round of the day.  That low round earned points for BlueCoverman, RedRage, and it allowed SetupDetermines to get off the mark.  BlueCoverman is now tied for the lead with Mary_S and 1GrumpyGolfer.
 
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Round 2 Low Round (10 points)
Tiger Woods -9
1. BlueCoverman
2. RedRage
3. SetupDetermines
 
Round 2 Worse Round (10 points)
Graeme Storm +7
1. None
 
Round 2 Worse Round (10 points)
Hamza Sayin +7
1. None
 
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The weather delayed the first round completion of the Turkish Open but a few hours rest meant that a few players were able to return fresh and blitz their way up the leaderboard.  GolfChatUK picks Thomas Bjorn and Henrik Stenson were among the three players that shot 64 in round 1.  That earned bonus points for BlueCoverman and Mary_S respectively.  Darren Fichardt also shot 64 but no one picked him.  Rounds of 66 or better got you into the Top 5 Low Round Scores and two other picks were among them earning points for everyone bar SetupDetermines.  Mary_S also had another Top 5 Low Round Score to add to her points total.  1GrumpyGolfer also had two picks in the Top 5 Low Round Scores and he is tied with Mary_S courtesy of worse round bonus points.  They were achieved in dramatic fashion as Ali Altuntas dropped 4 shots over his last two holes to record an 80.
 
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Round 1 Low Round (10 points)
Thomas Bjorn -8
1. BlueCoverman
 
Round 1 Low Round (10 points)
Henrik Stenson -8
1. Mary_S
 
Round 1 Low Round (10 points)
Darren Fichardt -8
1. None
 
Round 1 Worse Round (10 points)
Ali Altuntas +8
1. 1GrumpyGolfer
 
Round 1 Low Scores (10 points)
-6 or lower
 
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The penultimate event in the European Tour Final series and the GolfChatUK Fantasy League Summer/Autumn session sees the European Tour leave Shanghai and head to Turkey.  30 of those in Shanghai for the WGC are playing in Turkey on a relatively new course designed by Colin Montgomerie.  Half of Category B and most of the Category C players did not play in the WGC so this is their final chance to make the Top 60 in the Race to Dubai standings and play in the DP World Tour Championship season finale.
 
Tiger Woods makes an appearance in Turkey along with course designer Colin Mongomerie; luckily for those with Sky Sports Monty is playing and not in the commentary box.
 
This is a limited field event with no cut; cut bonuses will not be in effect.
 
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Everyone please notify others of changes in field before tournament starts and invalid or incomplete picks from participants.
 
Rankings based on the Official World Golf Ranking – November 4th 2013:
 
CATEGORY A
 
Tiger WOODS 1
Henrik STENSON 3
Justin ROSE 5
Ian POULTER 17
Charl SCHWARTZEL 21
Lee WESTWOOD 23
Louis OOSTHUIZEN 30
Martin KAYMER 34
Matteo MANASSERO 35
Francesco MOLINARI 37
David LYNN 38
Jonas BLIXT 39
 
CATEGORY B
 
Jamie DONALDSON 41
Thomas BJORN 46
Richard STERNE 48
Thongchai JAIDEE 49
Branden GRACE 51
Miguel Angel JIMENEZ 52
Bernd WIESBERGER 54
Thorbjorn OLESEN 55
Nicolas COLSAERTS 58
Stephen GALLACHER 59
Peter UIHLEIN 60
Joost LUITEN 61
Kiradech APHIBARNRAT 65
Chris WOOD 71
Shane LOWRY 72
Brett RUMFORD 74
Marcel SIEM 78
Paul LAWRIE 83
Alex NOREN 84
Pablo LARRAZABAL 92
Ross FISHER 95
Paul CASEY 97
George COETZEE 98
David HOWELL 99
Marcus FRASER 102
Scott JAMIESON 106
Victor DUBUISSON 108
Danny WILLETT 109
Padraig HARRINGTON 111
Gregory BOURDY 113
Rafa CABRERA BELLO 116
Marc WARREN 120
Tommy FLEETWOOD 122
 
CATEGORY C
 
Richie RAMSAY 128
Wen-chong LIANG 132
Julien QUESNE 134
Eduardo DE LA RIVA 138
Raphael JACQUELIN 143
Darren FICHARDT 147
Thomas AIKEN 152
Felipe AGUILAR 156
Simon KHAN 157
Soren KJELDSEN 181
Steve WEBSTER 182
Garth MULROY 185
Paul WARING 191
Alejandro CANIZARES 194
Ricardo SANTOS 206
JB HANSEN 209
Craig LEE 210
Ricardo GONZALEZ 220
Justin WALTERS 225
Eddie PEPPERELL 228
David HORSEY 235
Morten Orum MADSEN 236
Gregory HAVRET 272
Graeme STORM 274
Maximilian KIEFFER 290
John PARRY 292
David DRYSDALE 295
Robert-Jan DERKSEN 296
Damien MCGRANE 311
Colin MONTGOMERIE 798
Ediz KEMALOGLU(AM) N/A
Ali ALTUNTAS(AM) N/A
Hamza SAYIN N/A
 
________________________________________________________________________
 
Upcoming events:
____________ Date ___________ Event ______________________________________ Weight
 
Event #16 _ Nov 14 – Nov 17 ___ DP World Tour Championship, Dubai _____________ Weighted 2
_______________________________ Jumeirah Golf Estates, Dubai,United Arab Emirates

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RULES
 
Picking players: Unless stated, pick a total of 6 players as follows:
 
Pick 2 players from each category, plus a reserve per category.
 
Event winner: The person with the most total points at the completion of each event will be declared the winner. In case of a tie, those involved will match-off each picks' final position score in descending order. i.e. Player A's best finish vs. Player B's best finish, Player A's 2nd best finish vs. Player B's 2nd best finish, etc... until one's pick finishes better than the other(s).
 
If there is a tie after all 6 picks have been matched against each other, those involved will be declared co-winners.
 
Order of Merit: The person with the most total points at the completion of the season will be declared the GolfChatUK Fantasy League Champion. If there is a tie for total points at the completion of the season, those involved will be declared Co-Champions.
 
Player Withdrawals: If you pick a player who withdraws during a tournament, that player will be treated as nil scoring. If a player withdraws before starting the tournament then your reserve will be put in that player's place. It is up to you to check that your players are in the starting field.
 
Holidays / Absences: If you will be absent for an upcoming event (e.g holidays) you may post the numbers on the most recent fantasy league event and the respective tournament(s) that apply.  Example: Pick 2 players and 1 reserve from each category and the relative event number or name: Players 4 and 8, reserve 9 from Category A, players 1 and 7, reserve 3 from Category B, players 1 and 2, reserve 12 from Category C, Event #12.
 
Failure to submit picks: If you do not submit picks you will be awarded zero points.
 
Deadlines: Picks must ideally be submitted before the first drive is struck on the first day of the tournament. However, late picks submitted after the tournament has begun must be for players who have yet to start (or are not showing a score on europeantour.com, PGATour.com, etc.), and these will not be valid unless they are seconded by any other league member.
 
All fantasy league disputes and discrepancies will be considered by the League Judge: LadyPutt. All decisions made by the League Judge are final.
 
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SCORING SYSTEM

______________ Weighted 1 ____ Weighted 2 ___ Weighted 3
Winner ____________ 60 ___________ 120 __________ 180
2nd _______________ 40 ____________ 80 __________ 120
3rd _______________ 30 ____________ 60 ___________ 90
4th _______________ 20 ____________ 40 ___________ 60
5th - 10th ________ 15 ____________ 30 ___________ 45
11th - 15th _______ 10 ____________ 20 ___________ 30
16th - 20th ________ 5 ____________ 10 ___________ 15

Last Place ________ 10 ____________ 20 ___________ 30

Low Round * _______ 10 ____________ 20 ___________ 30
Worse Round * _____ 10 ____________ 20 ___________ 30

Make Cut ___________ 5 ____________ 10 ___________ 15
All 6 Make Cut ____ 20 ____________ 40 ___________ 60

Round 1 Top 5 * ___ 10 ____________ 20 ___________ 30
Round 3 Top 10 * __ 10 ____________ 20 ___________ 30

Low Amateur ** ____ 10 ____________ 20 ___________ 30

* Points awarded for round only
** Where separate Low Amateur is specified in rules

 
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Place holder for the event posting as 77 of the 78 strong field are confirmed according to the European Tour website.  I want to be fair to everyone in the knowledge that the 78th guy to be added to the entry list will most likely be the winner :whistle:Most likely he we be some Turkish no-hoper added by the sponsor GolfChatUK Fantasy League - Summer/Autumn Session - Event #15 Turkish Open - Page 2 3461234324


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Post by 1GrumpyGolfer Sat Nov 09, 2013 8:21 am

Another point of yours that I can throw back to you GolfChatUK Fantasy League - Summer/Autumn Session - Event #15 Turkish Open - Page 2 3461234324 based on your premise of having to pick the best players that would mean we would be all picking the same and all ending up at the top of the leaderboard.  You thought that would be boring; I'mza just Sayin Wink 

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Post by BlueCoverman Sat Nov 09, 2013 8:44 am

At least Mr Sayin did the decent thing and ensured that you didn't add to your points total today  Wink
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Post by 1GrumpyGolfer Sat Nov 09, 2013 8:45 am

Damn LPRPitis GolfChatUK Fantasy League - Summer/Autumn Session - Event #15 Turkish Open - Page 2 3461234324

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Post by 1GrumpyGolfer Sun Nov 10, 2013 1:19 am

I love my chopper, he's Turking great GolfChatUK Fantasy League - Summer/Autumn Session - Event #15 Turkish Open - Page 2 3461234324 double bogies his last for worse round of the day.

Very tight leaderboard is my unofficial update.

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Post by BlueCoverman Sun Nov 10, 2013 6:19 am

I shouldn't get too cocky if I was you, don't forget there is still an adjudication pending from the League Judge...
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Post by 1GrumpyGolfer Sun Nov 10, 2013 8:31 am

I don't think I have anything to worry about Blue Wink

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Post by 1GrumpyGolfer Sun Nov 10, 2013 8:31 am

GolfChatUK Fantasy League 2012–2013 - Summer/Autumn Session - Event #15

Turkey Open

Nov 07 – Nov 10 ___ The Montgomerie Maxx Royal, Antalya, Turkey

Tournament value: Weighted 1


________________________________________________________________________
Leaderboard – Round 3

Pos. Name ____________ Cuts _______ Rd1 ___ Rd2 ____ Rd3 ___ Rd4 __ Finish __ Total

1. 1GrumpyGolfer _____ XX (X/X) ____ 30 ____ 00 ____ 10 ____ XX _____ XX ______ 40

1. Mary_S ____________ XX (X/X) ____ 30 ____ 00 ____ 10 ____ XX _____ XX ______ 40

3. BlueCoverman ______ XX (X/X) ____ 20 ____ 10 ____ 00 ____ XX _____ XX ______ 30

3. Davie _____________ XX (X/X) ____ 10 ____ 00 ____ 20 ____ XX _____ XX ______ 30

5. LadyPutt __________ XX (X/X) ____ 10 ____ 00 ____ 10 ____ XX _____ XX ______ 20

5. Redrage ___________ XX (X/X) ____ 10 ____ 10 ____ 00 ____ XX _____ XX ______ 20

7. SetupDetermines ___ XX (X/X) ____ 00 ____ 10 ____ 00 ____ XX _____ XX ______ 10


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The fine golf continued and the course record was equalled and also broken in round 3. Victor Dubuisson shot 63 to take a 5 shot lead into the final round but finishing before him was Raphael Jacquelin who shot 62 including a double bogey on one of the par 3s. Rounds of 66 or better got you into the Top 10 Low Round Scores and three picks were among them earning points for Mary_S, LadyPutt, and Davie who had two of the three. 1GrumpyGolfer earned another 10 points through a last hole collapse by Ali Altuntas who had a double bogey on his final hole to sink to a 79 and sole possesion of the worse score.

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Round 3 Low Round (10 points)
Raphael Jacquelin -10
1. None

Round 3 Worse Round (10 points)
Ali Altuntas +7
1. 1GrumpyGolfer

Round 3 Low Scores (10 points)
-6 or lower

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Post by Mary_S Sun Nov 10, 2013 10:37 am

Well, my unplanned sabatical doesn't seem to have done me any harm! Innocent 
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Post by SetupDeterminestheMotion Sun Nov 10, 2013 11:29 am

Last place, just waiting to pounce on the last day.!!!!!
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Post by 1GrumpyGolfer Sun Nov 10, 2013 12:26 pm

Welcome back Setup, hope you had a great trip. 4 picks in scoring positions so I don't think you'll be at the bottom for long.

I think you're trying to lull us into a false sense of security Mary, just waiting for next season to pounce.

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Post by 1GrumpyGolfer Mon Nov 11, 2013 1:07 am

GolfChatUK Fantasy League 2012–2013 - Summer/Autumn Session - Event #15

Turkey Open

Nov 07 – Nov 10 ___ The Montgomerie Maxx Royal, Antalya, Turkey

Tournament value: Weighted 1


________________________________________________________________________
Leaderboard – Final Round

Pos. Name ____________ Cuts _______ Rd1 ___ Rd2 ____ Rd3 ___ Rd4 __ Finish __ Total

1. Mary_S ____________ XX (X/X) ____ 30 ____ 00 ____ 10 ____ 00 _____ 75 _____ 115

2. Redrage ___________ XX (X/X) ____ 10 ____ 10 ____ 00 ____ 10 _____ 80 _____ 110

3. Davie _____________ XX (X/X) ____ 10 ____ 00 ____ 20 ____ 00 _____ 75 _____ 105

4. LadyPutt __________ XX (X/X) ____ 10 ____ 00 ____ 10 ____ 10 _____ 60 ______ 90

5. SetupDetermines ___ XX (X/X) ____ 00 ____ 10 ____ 00 ____ 00 _____ 70 ______ 80

6. 1GrumpyGolfer _____ XX (X/X) ____ 30 ____ 00 ____ 10 ____ 00 _____ 35 ______ 75

7. BlueCoverman ______ XX (X/X) ____ 20 ____ 10 ____ 00 ____ 00 _____ 35 ______ 65


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A thrilling final day saw the lead be shared at one point by two GolfChatUK Fantasy League picks in the closing stages of the Turkish Open. In the end it wasn't to be for Jamie Donaldson and Justin Rose as the 18th saw their fortunes finish in differing fashions; a two putt birdie for Donaldson and a three putt bogey for Rose after a poor drive. Donaldson's birdie meant he posted round of the day which also included shot of the day at the par 3 16th, a cheeky little 1; wonder if he matched BlueCoverman? Donaldson earned points for LadyPutt and RedRage.

The chopping and changing on the leaderboard also had the GolfChatUK Fantasy Leaguers jockeying for position and everyone scored finish points. BlueCoverman had two picks score points, 1GrumpyGolfer, LadyPutt, and SetupDetermines all had three picks score points and they finished in the mid and lower table range. RedRage also had three picks score points including a 2nd and 3rd and he scored the most points through finish placings and that rocketed him up the table. Davie and Mary_S had five picks score points and it led to a very close finish; in the end the bang that Mary_S returned with echoed significantly and she took victory from RedRage with Davie in third place.

In a surprising finish Turkish chopper Ali Altuntas only bogied his last hole allowing Simon Khan to take the worse round dishonours by one shot with a 76. Altuntas had pretty much wrapped up last place before the final round and was the only to be double digits over par.

The European Tour Series Finals end next week in Dubai with the DP World Tour Championship and so does the GolfChatUK Fantasy League for 2012-2013.

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Final Round Low Round (10 points)
Jamie Donaldson -9
1. LadyPutt
2. RedRage

Final Round 3 Worse Round (10 points)
Simon Khan +4
1. None

Last Place (10 points)
Ali Altuntas +23
1. 1GrumpyGolfer

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Post by BlueCoverman Mon Nov 11, 2013 3:26 am

Good job I had insider knowledge of the course, I might have come last otherwise! GolfChatUK Fantasy League - Summer/Autumn Session - Event #15 Turkish Open - Page 2 3461234324
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Post by LadyPutt Mon Nov 11, 2013 3:32 am

1GrumpyGolfer wrote:
BlueCoverman wrote:For the attention of the League Judge
 
A question if I may LadyPutt...can I ask for your feelings on this weeks shenanigans? Specifically we have had a player deliberately choose the weakest players in the field (and those that are obviously completely out of their depth at this level) as their category C picks.
 
This tactic to pick up cheap points for worse round and last place is not only devious and underhand in my opinion, but goes against all the high standards and principles of fair play and honesty that up until now have been enjoyed by all of us who participate in this league.
 
Without wishing to influence your considerations of course, can I propose that the guilty party be disqualified from this weeks contest and take no further part other than to remain at the bottom of the leaderboard on nil points for the duration of the event.
 
I await your decision with much interest.
 
Sincerely yours,
BC
 
 
Dear BlueCoverman,
 
I note your comments with interest especially in the light of your earlier remarks.  If I may I would like to direct your attention to the rules section of the Fantasy League paying specific attention to the section on picking players:
Picking players: Unless stated, pick a total of 6 players as follows:

Pick 2 players from each category, plus a reserve per category.
 
 
I am unable to see where it says you must pick the best players within each category and I would be interested, nay grateful,  to see where it explicitly states this.  Surely the picks are at the discretion of the player as to who he or she thinks will score the most points for them.
 
I do believe, my good fellow, that there is a smattering of sour grapes coming across in your post as you yourself commented:
BlueCoverman wrote:You're right it's genius, can't believe I didn't think of it myself when there are no cut bonuses to be had!
  
In light of recent ungentlemenly comments regarding the good Lady Judge's performance in prior events and admitting, no, bragging, about insider knowledge of the course for this event you may wish to keep a lower profile in case the spotlight is directed back at you.
 
Yours sincerely,
Grumps
Sorry but I don't see he's done anything wrong! Just wish I'd thought of it Innocent
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Post by BlueCoverman Mon Nov 11, 2013 4:10 am

It was worth a try! GolfChatUK Fantasy League - Summer/Autumn Session - Event #15 Turkish Open - Page 2 3461234324
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Post by SetupDeterminestheMotion Tue Nov 12, 2013 3:28 am

So all down to the wire.

Still no wins.Crying or Very sad 

You will all have to make choices that are to play so badly, so that I can gain my first victory of the session.
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Post by Mary_S Wed Nov 13, 2013 1:10 am

Oh yes - back in the game! cheers 

Cheers GG.
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