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Post by 1GrumpyGolfer Wed Sep 24, 2014 3:56 am

GolfChatUK Fantasy League 2013–2014 - Summer/Autumn Session - Event #9

The 40th Ryder Cup

26 - 28 September 2014 ___ Gleneagles (PGA Centenary), Auchterarder, Perthshire, Scotland

Tournament value: Weighted X


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Leaderboard - Final

Pos. Name ___________ E H ___ E V ___ US H __ Us V __ Result ____ Total


1. Davie _____________ 20 ____ 00 ____ 00 ____ 00 ____ 20 ________ 40

1. SetupDetermines ___ 00 ____ 00 ____ 00 ____ 20 ____ 20 ________ 40

3. 1GrumpyGolfer _____ 00 ____ 00 ____ 00 ____ 00 ____ 20 ________ 20

3. Mary_S ____________ 00 ____ 00 ____ 00 ____ 00 ____ 20 ________ 20

5. BlueCoverman ______ 00 ____ 00 ____ 00 ____ 00 ____ 00 ________ 00

5. LadyPutt __________ 00 ____ 00 ____ 00 ____ 00 ____ 00 ________ 00

5. RedRage ___________ 00 ____ 00 ____ 00 ____ 00 ____ 00 ________ 00  


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After the Sunday Foursomes it was pretty much all over bar the shouting.  The unbeaten Justin Rose was primed to take the European Hero position and Patrick Reed was doing his best for the misfiring US team. Those two held onto their hero status, only two players failed to get any kind of positive result from their matches; Stephen Gallacher and Bubba Watson.  Out of those four only Rose was picked to be the hero, Watson was picked to be a villain.  Reed was picked as villain by lots of Fantasy Leaguers but he ended up being a pantomime villain instead; "Henrik!, he's behind you".

Four Fantasy Leaguers kept the faith in the European team by picking them for the win.  Only Mary_S came closest to getting the actual result correct but close only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades.  Not many points to play for and not many were awarded; aren't you glad it's a non counting event now.  

The 40th Ryder Cup will be shared between Davie and SetupDetermines who had a hero and villain to go with their correct team win.  Mary_S and 1GrumpyGolfer share the final podium position and thanks to everyone else for showing up.  Time to throw you under the bus in the press conferences.

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After the Miracle at Medinah and a comeback for the ages the US team have turned to experience.  Tom Watson has been appointed captain and been given the task of retrieving the Ryder Cup which was snatched out of their grasp two years ago.  Paul McGinley has been charged with keeping the Ryder Cup in European hands and on paper his team look weaker than the Americans.  His twelve man team has an average ranking of 20 but he has four of the top six players in the OWGR on his team.  Two years ago Lee Westwood was ranked 4th in the OWGR and now he's the European lowest ranked player at 44.  The US team led by Jim Furyk as the top ranked American has an average ranking of 16.  

This year Fantasy Leaguers will not be subjected to the whims of the Captains but will still need to think carefully if they are to bring home the Ryder Cup.  The competition is as follows:

1. Pick the Result

Pick overall result: Euro win / Tie / USA win (20 points)
Pick correct match score: example 14.5 - 13.5 (20 points)
Correct result and score combo: example US 14.5 - Euro 13.5 (20 points)

If you choose the Tie you automatically get 14-14 as the match score.

2. Pick your Europe Ryder Cup Hero and Villain
Pick your Hero (Top points scorer): One Player from Europe (20 points)
Pick your Villain (Lowest points scorer): One Player from Europe (20 points)

3. Pick your Team USA Ryder Cup Hero and Villain
Pick your Hero (Top points scorer): One Player from Team USA (20 points)
Pick your Villain (Lowest points scorer): One Player from Team USA (20 points)

Team USA
Jim Furyk 4
Bubba Watson 7
Matt Kuchar 9
Rickie Fowler 10
Phil Mickelson 11
Jordan Spieth 13
Zach Johnson 16
Jimmy Walker 19
Hunter Mahan 21
Keegan Bradley 26
Patrick Reed 27
Webb Simpson 33

Team Europe
Rory McIlroy 1
Sergio Garcia 3
Henrik Stenson 5
Justin Rose 6
Martin Kaymer 12
Graeme McDowell 18
Victor Dubuisson 23
Jamie Donaldson 25
Thomas Bjorn 30
Stephen Gallacher 34
Ian Poulter 38
Lee Westwood 44

Example of competition entry

Team USA win
Score 15-13

European Ryder Cup Hero: Ian Poulter
European Ryder Cup Villain: Martin Kaymer

US Ryder Cup Hero: Rickie Fowler
US Ryder Cup Villain: Webb Simpson


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Post by 1GrumpyGolfer Wed Sep 24, 2014 3:58 am

I did tell LadyPutt how it would be played and it seems unfair to change the goalposts now at this late stage. There are fewer points to play for but you aren't subjected to the whims of the Captains as they select players for each session plus, it also means less admin for me...

Due to the fewer points on offer we could have a tie as a result however, a tie is possible in the Ryder Cup and the winners will share the honours.

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Post by 1GrumpyGolfer Wed Sep 24, 2014 4:05 am

LadyPutt's choices:

LadyPutt wrote:So, I've had a thought about this scratch and decided:

Heroes: Sergio Garcia, Jim Furyk
Villains: Lee Westwood, Patrick Reed
Result - USA win 14½ to 13½

Sorry not to be patriotic but I just have a feeling USA will squeak it. Hope I'm proved wrong!

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Post by BlueCoverman Wed Sep 24, 2014 5:16 am

1GrumpyGolfer wrote:I did tell LadyPutt how it would be played and it seems unfair to change the goalposts now at this late stage.  There are fewer points to play for but you aren't subjected to the whims of the Captains as they select players for each session plus, it also means less admin for me...

Due to the fewer points on offer we could have a tie as a result however, a tie is possible in the Ryder Cup and the winners will share the honours.

Except that if you get everything absolutely right you still will only score 140 points? Not much more than if you finish mid-table in a tournament weighted 1 event.
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Post by Davie Wed Sep 24, 2014 6:12 am

Moaning again Blue? Razz

Just for clarification before Sunday so we don't get complaints, I assume if 2 or more players are heroes or villains they get full points? Or is it like with the bookies where the points get diluted for co-winners (and losers)?
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Post by 1GrumpyGolfer Wed Sep 24, 2014 6:45 am

Davie:
Heroes = top points scorers on each team.  There could be more than one player that scores 3 points for example and that's the hightest total.  Each player is eligible for the 20 points.

Villains = lowest points scorers on each team.  There could be more than one player that scores 0.5 points for example and that's the lowest total.  Each player is eligible for the 20 points.

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Post by Davie Wed Sep 24, 2014 6:54 am

Don't let him bully you Grumps Razz

There may be fewer points on offer but I'd still take a max 140 points against Blue's 30 Twisted Evil

Maybe increase it to x2 value to make it more comparable? Or just add the points in anyway

Matchplay is a superior form of golf anyway so picking winners in a matchplay comp is far more important. I've already called up Capt. McGinley to tell him I'm available for a late call up Innocent
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Post by 1GrumpyGolfer Wed Sep 24, 2014 6:59 am

Deciding not to be lazy I checked what happened last time and the Ryder Cup was about the glory and not the points.  It won't count again.

I think we had this as a non counting event because you couldn't guarantee that your picks would play more than one match whereas in a normal event they have at least two rounds depending upon whether there is a cut or not.

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Post by Davie Wed Sep 24, 2014 7:15 am

Isn't that the "skill" of picking players who will play more than one match? Wink
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Post by BlueCoverman Wed Sep 24, 2014 8:05 am

Davie wrote:Moaning again Blue? Razz

Me Moan?...surely not! GolfChatUK Fantasy League 2013–2014 - Summer/Autumn Session - Event #9 - Ryder Cup 3461234324
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Post by BlueCoverman Wed Sep 24, 2014 8:10 am

Davie wrote:There may be fewer points on offer but I'd still take a max 140 points against Blue's 30 Twisted Evil


So how would I manage to get 30 then if you can only score in multiples of 20? Razz
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Post by BlueCoverman Wed Sep 24, 2014 8:11 am

1GrumpyGolfer wrote:Deciding not to be lazy I checked what happened last time and the Ryder Cup was about the glory and not the points.  It won't count again.

I think we had this as a non counting event because you couldn't guarantee that your picks would play more than one match whereas in a normal event they have at least two rounds depending upon whether there is a cut or not.

Ah hadn't realised that Grumps. Fair enough GolfChatUK Fantasy League 2013–2014 - Summer/Autumn Session - Event #9 - Ryder Cup 1927768590
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Post by BlueCoverman Wed Sep 24, 2014 8:14 am

Davie wrote:I've already called up Capt. McGinley to tell him I'm available for a late call up Innocent

If it was between you with 22 shots and Westwood off scratch I know who I would have in the team. And it wouldn't be slim Lee!
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Post by 1GrumpyGolfer Wed Sep 24, 2014 9:08 am

BlueCoverman wrote:
Davie wrote:I've already called up Capt. McGinley to tell him I'm available for a late call up Innocent

If it was between you with 22 shots and Westwood off scratch I know who I would have in the team. And it wouldn't be slim Lee!

No, it wouldn't be either of them. Lee is dropped. Davie is another vice captain and every hole he says to his mate: this one for the half then. Game over for team USA GolfChatUK Fantasy League 2013–2014 - Summer/Autumn Session - Event #9 - Ryder Cup 3461234324

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Post by SetupDeterminestheMotion Wed Sep 24, 2014 7:09 pm

So this is a non-counting event. ??

No handicap cut etc etc ?? Cool Razz

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Post by Davie Thu Sep 25, 2014 12:18 am

Team EUROPE win
Score 15.5-12.5

European Ryder Cup Hero: Justin Rose
European Ryder Cup Villain: Jamie Donaldson

US Ryder Cup Hero: Keegan Bradley
US Ryder Cup Villain: Patrick Reed
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Post by SetupDeterminestheMotion Thu Sep 25, 2014 12:42 am

Team EUROPE win
Score 15-13

European Ryder Cup Hero: Sergio king
European Ryder Cup Villain: G Mac GolfChatUK Fantasy League 2013–2014 - Summer/Autumn Session - Event #9 - Ryder Cup 3497602689

US Ryder Cup Hero: Rickie Twisted Evil
US Ryder Cup Villain: Blubba No
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Post by Redrage Thu Sep 25, 2014 10:46 pm

Result: DRAW
Score 14-14

Euro Hero - Stenson
Euro Villain - L. Westwood (Stevie G getting paired with Poults gets him a reprieve.)

US Hero - Fowler
US Villain - Spieth


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Post by 1GrumpyGolfer Thu Sep 25, 2014 11:32 pm

Welcome back Red, hope the craziness at work has settled down.

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Post by SetupDeterminestheMotion Fri Sep 26, 2014 5:58 am

McGinlay trying to give US an easy lead.
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Post by Redrage Fri Sep 26, 2014 6:47 am

1GrumpyGolfer wrote:Welcome back Red, hope the craziness at work has settled down.
not really, Grumps... Still busier than a two twatted hooker! I did free my schedule up a little for the RC though!
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Post by BlueCoverman Fri Sep 26, 2014 6:54 am

Team: USA win
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Euro Hero - McIlroy
Euro Villain - Dubuisson

USA Hero - Spieth
USA Villain - Simpson

The glory will be mine, all mine Twisted Evil
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Post by 1GrumpyGolfer Fri Sep 26, 2014 12:53 pm

Europe win 14.5 - 13.5

Hero Poulter
Villain Bjorn

Hero Fowler
Villain Reed

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Post by Mary_S Fri Sep 26, 2014 5:27 pm

Europe win 16 - 12

Hero: Sergio
Villain: Bjorn

Hero: Mickleson
Villain: Mahan
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Post by 1GrumpyGolfer Sat Sep 27, 2014 5:03 am

After the first day's play every team member has played.

There are plenty with 100% winning records but only Stenson and Rose have played two and won two. Davie and Red are looking very happy with themselves at the moment and are in the running for the bonus points.

On the US side almost everyone has at least one point although some needed two matches to get there. Everyone bar LadyPutt is tied for the lead in the US Hero stakes.

The villains for the European side are Poulter and Gallacher. They have a half point lead(?) over Thomas Bjorn who was picked by Grumps and Mary. No one's getting points at the moment

On the US side four picks for villains have a win and Simpson, Watson, and Mahan were picked to be losers and they're doing that so far. Blue, Mary, and Setup are in the running for bonus points.


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Post by Redrage Sun Sep 28, 2014 1:07 am

Regretting swapping Westwood and Gallagher now.
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Post by Redrage Sun Sep 28, 2014 9:55 pm

I have an irrational dislike of Patrick Reed - he thinks very highly of himself and wears a silly necklace (I did say it was irrational)... But that idiot in the crowd who just shout 'have you been practising your putting, Patrick?' was well out of order. What a very crass way to behave, especially when there has been no needle between the players so far.
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Post by LadyPutt Mon Sep 29, 2014 5:14 am

What a result! I'm so happy to be proved wrong. A great atmosphere watching it all in the hotel bar surrounded by other golf fans and with an all inclusive deal the drinks were flowing!
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Post by LadyPutt Mon Sep 29, 2014 5:15 am

What a result! I'm so happy to be proved wrong. A great atmosphere watching it all in the hotel bar surrounded by other golf fans and with an all inclusive deal the drinks were flowing!
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GolfChatUK Fantasy League 2013–2014 - Summer/Autumn Session - Event #9

The 40th Ryder Cup

26 - 28 September 2014 ___ Gleneagles (PGA Centenary), Auchterarder, Perthshire, Scotland

Tournament value: Weighted X


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Leaderboard - Final

Pos. Name ___________ E H ___ E V ___ US H __ Us V __ Result ____ Total


1. Davie _____________ 20 ____ 00 ____ 00 ____ 00 ____ 20 ________ 40

1. SetupDetermines ___ 00 ____ 00 ____ 00 ____ 20 ____ 20 ________ 40

3. 1GrumpyGolfer _____ 00 ____ 00 ____ 00 ____ 00 ____ 20 ________ 20

3. Mary_S ____________ 00 ____ 00 ____ 00 ____ 00 ____ 20 ________ 20

5. BlueCoverman ______ 00 ____ 00 ____ 00 ____ 00 ____ 00 ________ 00

5. LadyPutt __________ 00 ____ 00 ____ 00 ____ 00 ____ 00 ________ 00

5. RedRage ___________ 00 ____ 00 ____ 00 ____ 00 ____ 00 ________ 00  


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After the Sunday Foursomes it was pretty much all over bar the shouting.  The unbeaten Justin Rose was primed to take the European Hero position and Patrick Reed was doing his best for the misfiring US team. Those two held onto their hero status, only two players failed to get any kind of positive result from their matches; Stephen Gallacher and Bubba Watson.  Out of those four only Rose was picked to be the hero, Watson was picked to be a villain.  Reed was picked as villain by lots of Fantasy Leaguers but he ended up being a pantomime villain instead; "Henrik!, he's behind you".

Four Fantasy Leaguers kept the faith in the European team by picking them for the win.  Only Mary_S came closest to getting the actual result correct but close only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades.  Not many points to play for and not many were awarded; aren't you glad it's a non counting event now.  

The 40th Ryder Cup will be shared between Davie and SetupDetermines who had a hero and villain to go with their correct team win.  Mary_S and 1GrumpyGolfer share the final podium position and thanks to everyone else for showing up.  Time to throw you under the bus in the press conferences.


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Post by Mary_S Tue Sep 30, 2014 5:37 am

Well done Davie and SetUp.

Honoured to share the podium with you GG! king
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Post by BlueCoverman Tue Sep 30, 2014 11:08 pm

That was a completely rubbish competition you organised there Grumps, please try and do better with the next one Innocent
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Yes, sorry you had a shocker there Blue GolfChatUK Fantasy League 2013–2014 - Summer/Autumn Session - Event #9 - Ryder Cup 3497602689

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