GolfChatUK Fantasy League 2013–2014 - Summer/Autumn Session - Event #10 - Alfred Dunhill

GolfChatUK Fantasy League 2013–2014 - Summer/Autumn Session - Event #10

Alfred Dunhill Championship

Oct 02 – Oct 05 ___ St. Andrews (Old course), Carnoustie, KingsBarns, Scotland

Tournament value: Weighted 1

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Leaderboard – Final Round

Pos. Name ____________ Cuts _______ Rd1 ___ Rd2 ____ Rd3 ___ Rd4 __ Finish __ Total

1. BlueCoverman ______ 20 (4/9) ____ 10 ____ 00 ____ 30 ____  00 _____ 95 _____ 155

2. SetupDetermines ___ 20 (4/9) ____ 10 ____ 00 ____ 30 ____  00 _____ 95 _____ 155

3. 1GrumpyGolfer _____ 30 (5/9) ____ 00 ____ 00 ____ 40 ____  00 _____ 80 _____ 150

3. LadyPutt __________ 30 (5/9) ____ 00 ____ 00 ____ 30 ____  00 _____ 90 _____ 150

3. Redrage ___________ 35 (6/9) ____ 20 ____ 00 ____ 10 ____  00 _____ 85 _____ 150

6. Davie _____________ 20 (3/9) ____ 00 ____ 00 ____ 20 ____  00 _____ 50 ______ 90

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That was a close one.  5 points separates the top 5 Fantasy Leaguers as pretty much everyone had two of the runner ups in McIlroy and Fleetwood.  BlueCoverman emerges victorious after the playoff determined that Shane Lowry's sixth placed finish was enough to topple SetupDetermines who had David Howell as his next best finisher at 14th.

RedRage had the most picks score points with five and that was enough to tie LadyPutt, who had three picks score points, and 1GrumpyGolfer, who had two picks score points, for third place.  Davie had two picks score points but he couldn't close the gap with just three picks in play.

Chris Doak and Mark Foster had closing 66s for the best rounds of the day and Garrick Porteous had a poor day; he shot 79 to slide down the leaderboard into last place.

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Final Round Low Round (10 points)
Chris Doak -6
1. None

Final Round Low Round (10 points)
Mark Foster -6
1. None

Final Round Worse Round (10 points)
Garrick Porteous +7
1. None

Last Place (10 points)
Garrick Porteous +3
1. None

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Tommy Fleetwood and Louis Oosthuzen shot 62s to tie for low round of the day.  Thriston Lawrence shot an 80 at Kingsbarns for the worst round of the day.  Fleetwood was chosen by everyone bar RedRage.  The cut line fell at -4 and only 4 bonuses were awarded.  RedRage was the only one to keep Category A intact.  1GrumpyGolfer, Davie, and LadyPutt have all of Category B.  Davie only had Category B left. Low round scores mark was 65 and only three picks met that number.

All to play for tomorrow

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Round 3 Low Round (10 points)
Tommy Fleetwood -10
1. 1GrumpyGolfer
2. BlueCoverman
3. Davie
4. LadyPutt
5. SetupDetermines

Round 3 Low Round (10 points)
Louis Oosthuizen -10
1. None

Round 3 Worse Round (10 points)
Thriston Lawrence +8
1. None

Round 3 Low Scores (10 points)
-7 or lower

Cut Line (5 points)
-4 or lower

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Brandon Grace shot 65 at Carnoustie for low round of the day.  Mikhail Lundberg shot an 80 at St Andrews for the worst round of the day.  Nothing else happened.

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Round 2 Low Round (10 points)
Branden Grace -7
1. None

Round 2 Worse Round (10 points)
Mikhail Lundberg +8
1. None

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Oliver Wilson shot 64 to set a course record at Carnoustie.  Dimi Papadatos shot an 80 at Kingsbarns.  These were the lowest and worst rounds of the day.  The Top 5 Low Round scores were 67 or lower.  Padraig Harrington and Shane Lowry finished with 66s and scored points for RedRage who had both of them and SetupDetermines and BlueCoverman who picked Harrington and Lowry respectively.

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Round 1 Low Round (10 points)
Oliver Wilson -8
1. None

Round 1 Worse Round (10 points)
Dimi Papadatos +8
1. None

Round 1 Low Scores (10 points)
-5 or lower

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The first event after the Ryder Cup sees a victorious captain and four of his team grace the field and many golf courses that the Alfred Dunhill Championship is played over.  The play is spread over the three courses and the cut takes place after round three; the final round will be played at St. Andrews.  It's a slightly bigger field than normal which will also get cut to fewer than normal due to this being a pro-am tournament.

Rory McIlroy is the only player from within the top 10 in the OWGR and eight others from within the top 50 are also in the field.  Eleven former winners are in attendance: David Howell (defending champion), Branden Grace, Michael Hoey, Martin Kaymer, Simon Dyson, Robert Karlsson, Nick Dougherty, Padraig Harrington (multiple winner), Colin Montgomerie, Stephen Gallacher, and Paul Lawrie.  The only other winner not to take part is Lee Westwood.  Also included is Ryder Cup numptie, I mean captain, in Nick Faldo.  

We are back to our regular three Categories but you still need to pick three, plus reserve, from each one.  The additional cut bonus points are still on offer this time around.  If you get all of your picks through in any category you get a small bonus.  Get all 9 picks through and you get an even bigger bonus.  It's all way down at the bottom in the scoring section if you are interested.

This is a full field with cut event, so cut points will be available; see above.

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Everyone please notify others of changes in field before tournament starts and invalid or incomplete picks from participants.

Rankings based on the Official World Golf Ranking – September 28th 2014:

CATEGORY A

Rory MCILROY 1
Martin KAYMER 12
Victor DUBUISSON 23
Charl SCHWARTZEL 24
Stephen GALLACHER 34
Joost LUITEN 36
Ryan PALMER 41
Thongchai JAIDEE 42
Francesco MOLINARI 49
Ernie ELS 51
Mikko ILONEN 52
Shane LOWRY 55
Louis OOSTHUIZEN 62
Paul CASEY 63
Marc WARREN 64
Brooks KOEPKA 66
Bernd WIESBERGER 67
Pablo LARRAZABAL 69

CATEGORY B

Tommy FLEETWOOD 73
Richard STERNE 76
Rafa CABRERA BELLO 82
George COETZEE 89
Matteo MANASSERO 90
Edoardo MOLINARI 92
Fabrizio ZANOTTI 94
Danny WILLETT 95
Simon DYSON 100
Hennie OTTO 106
Thorbjorn OLESEN 107
Romain WATTEL 110
David HOWELL 113
Alexander LEVY 114
Ross FISHER 115
Chris WOOD 116
Robert KARLSSON 117
Branden GRACE 121
Andrew JOHNSTON 124
David HORSEY 129
Thomas AIKEN 135
Peter UIHLEIN 136
Alejandro CANIZARES 137
Tyrrell HATTON 139
Kristoffer BROBERG 141
Richie RAMSAY 150
Moritz LAMPERT 155
Felipe AGUILAR 156
Darren FICHARDT 157
Marcel SIEM 158
Gregory BOURDY 160
Julien QUESNE 161
Andy SULLIVAN 163
Emiliano GRILLO 169
Eddie PEPPERELL 171
Morten Orum MADSEN 187
Scott JAMIESON 193
Danie VAN TONDER 194
Brett RUMFORD 196
Shiv KAPUR 197
Michael HOEY 198
Alvaro QUIROS 203
Robert-Jan DERKSEN 204
Matthew BALDWIN 207
Paul WARING 210
Raphael JACQUELIN 212
Rikard KARLBERG 213
Anders HANSEN 214
Oliver FISHER 217
Seve BENSON 220
Johan CARLSSON 228
Sam HUTSBY 229
Jbe' KRUGER 230
Gregory HAVRET 232
Steve WEBSTER 236
Marco CRESPI 237
Ulrich VAN DEN BERG 240
Richard GREEN 244
Craig LEE 256
Thomas PIETERS 260
Andrea PAVAN 262
Daan HUIZING 262
Eduardo DE LA RIVA 264
Wade ORMSBY 265
Maximilian KIEFFER 266
Graeme STORM 272
Soren KJELDSEN 274
Trevor FISHER-JR 276
Paul LAWRIE 277
Damien MCGRANE 280
Mikael LUNDBERG 287
Stuart MANLEY 292
Robert ROCK 294
Merrick BREMNER 296
Magnus A CARLSSON 298
Justin WALTERS 299

CATEGORY C

Lucas BJERREGAARD 302
Jin JEONG 310
Matthew GRIFFIN 314
Roope KAKKO 316
Padraig HARRINGTON 324
Simon KHAN 325
Haydn PORTEOUS 326
Anthony WALL 342
Tom LEWIS 344
Ricardo GONZALEZ 346
Jorge CAMPILLO 356
Darren CLARKE 360
Keith HORNE 362
Richard BLAND 363
Ricardo SANTOS 364
David MCKENZIE 365
Ashley HALL 368
Lee SLATTERY 371
Gareth MAYBIN 373
Adrian OTAEGUI 376
Daniel BROOKS 381
Sihwan KIM 382
Dimi PAPADATOS 384
Nacho ELVIRA 397
Simon THORNTON 399
Matthew NIXON 408
James MORRISON 426
Nathan HOLMAN 429
Chris DOAK 435
Gary STAL 445
JB HANSEN 451
Soren HANSEN 459
Richard FINCH 460
Victor RIU 466
David DRYSDALE 478
Jens DANTORP 492
Peter WHITEFORD 495
Mark FOSTER 507
Adrien SADDIER 509
Carlos DEL MORAL 510
Estanislao GOYA 518
James KINGSTON 520
Jamie MCLEARY 536
Brandon STONE 541
John HAHN 542
Louis DE JAGER 546
Jack WILSON 549
Nick CULLEN 558
Francois CALMELS 569
Andreas HARTØ 582
Oliver BEKKER 583
Justin HARDING 591
Paul MCGINLEY 594
Simon WAKEFIELD 596
John PARRY 610
Peter LAWRIE 694
Kevin PHELAN 706
Jason SCRIVENER 709
Ruan DE SMIDT 715
Colin MONTGOMERIE 772
Oliver WILSON 792
Niclas FASTH 810
Garrick PORTEOUS 846
Thomas LEVET 855
Brody NINYETTE 900
Jeev Milkha SINGH 909
Sandy LYLE 914
Joonas GRANBERG 1001
David DUVAL 1002
Nick DOUGHERTY 1532
Thriston LAWRENCE 1560
Nick FALDO 1560
Mark ANGUIANO N/A
Ryan EVANS N/A

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RULES

Picking players: Unless stated, pick a total of 9 players as follows:

Pick 3 players from each category, plus a reserve per category.

Event winner: The person with the most total points at the completion of each event will be declared the winner. In case of a tie, those involved will match-off each picks' final position score in descending order. i.e. Player A's best finish vs. Player B's best finish, Player A's 2nd best finish vs. Player B's 2nd best finish, etc... until one's pick finishes better than the other(s).

If there is a tie after all 6 picks have been matched against each other, those involved will be declared co-winners.

Order of Merit: The person with the most total points at the completion of the season will be declared the GolfChatUK Fantasy League Champion. If there is a tie for total points at the completion of the season, those involved will be declared Co-Champions.

Player Withdrawals: If you pick a player who withdraws during a tournament, that player will be eligble for points for all completed rounds and making the cut if they withdraw after the cut. It must be apparent that the player completed their round for them to be eligible for either the low round, worse round, top 5, or top 10 low round scores.  If a player withdraws before starting the tournament then your reserve will be put in that player's place. It is up to you to check that your players are in the starting field.

Holidays / Absences: If you will be absent for an upcoming event (e.g holidays) you may post the numbers on the most recent fantasy league event and the respective tournament(s) that apply.  Example: Pick 2 players and 1 reserve from each category and the relative event number or name: Players 4 and 8, reserve 9 from Category A, players 1 and 7, reserve 3 from Category B, players 1 and 2, reserve 12 from Category C, Event #12.

Failure to submit picks: If you do not submit picks you will be awarded zero points.

Deadlines: Picks must ideally be submitted before the first drive is struck on the first day of the tournament. However, late picks submitted after the tournament has begun must be for players who have yet to start (or are not showing a score on europeantour.com, PGATour.com, etc.), and these will not be valid unless they are seconded by any other league member.

All fantasy league disputes and discrepancies will be considered by the League Judge: LadyPutt. All decisions made by the League Judge are final.

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SCORING SYSTEM

______________ Weighted 1 ____ Weighted 2 ___ Weighted 3
Winner ____________ 60 ___________ 120 __________ 180
2nd _______________ 40 ____________ 80 __________ 120
3rd _______________ 30 ____________ 60 ___________ 90
4th _______________ 20 ____________ 40 ___________ 60
5th - 10th ________ 15 ____________ 30 ___________ 45
11th - 15th _______ 10 ____________ 20 ___________ 30
16th - 20th ________ 5 ____________ 10 ___________ 15

Last Place ________ 10 ____________ 20 ___________ 30

Low Round * _______ 10 ____________ 20 ___________ 30
Worse Round * _____ 10 ____________ 20 ___________ 30

Make Cut ___________ 5 ____________ 10 ___________ 15
All Cat A Make Cut _ 5 ____________ 10 ___________ 15
All Cat B Make Cut _ 5 ____________ 10 ___________ 15
All Cat C Make Cut _ 5 ____________ 10 ___________ 15
All 9 Make Cut ____ 20 ____________ 40 ___________ 60

Round 1 Top 5 * ___ 10 ____________ 20 ___________ 30
Round 3 Top 10 * __ 10 ____________ 20 ___________ 30

Low Amateur ** ____ 10 ____________ 20 ___________ 30

* Points awarded for round only
** Where separate Low Amateur is specified in rules

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CAT A : Rory, Victor, Martin. RES Shane

CAT B : Tommy F, David H, Rafa C B. RES Matteo

CAT C : Jin Jeong, Paddy H, Monty. RES Sir nick

I've started so I'll finish....

What's this fill in the blanks at the end?

Cat A: Kaymer, Lowry, McIlroy (res: Dubuisson)

Cat B: Dyson, Fleetwood, E Molinari (res: Willett)

Cat C: Clarke, Lewis, Montgomerie (res: McGinlay - why not, he's had a good week )

CATEGORY A: Martin KAYMER, Victor DUBUISSON, Joost LUITEN (res: Francesco MOLINARI)

CATEGORY B: Tommy FLEETWOOD, Edoardo MOLINARI, David HOWELL (res: Thorbjorn OLESEN)

CATEGORY C: Simon KHAN, Tom LEWIS, Lee SLATTERY (res: James MORRISON)

Back from the sunshine  and glad I logged on as I thought we might be having a rest this week!

Cat A: Rory McIlroy, Victor Dubuisson & Joost Luiten (res Shane Lowry)
Cat B: Tommy Fleetwood, Edoardo Molinari & David Howell (res David Horsey)
Cat C: Anthony Wall, Ricardo Santos & Gary Stal (res Mark Foster)

A: McIlroy, Lowry, Casey, Dubuisson (r)
B: Wood, Karlsson, Pepperell, Paul Lawrie (r)
C: Harrington, Clarke, Montgomerie, Lewis (r)

Good luck all!

Cat A: Rory, Victor, Casey. Reserve Palmer

Cat B: Tommy F, R Fisher, A Sullivan. Reserve D Willett

Cat C: J Morrison, T Lewis, A Wall. Reserve as Khan

Setup, which David H were you after?

Howell or Horsey.

Howell...

Am I the only one with Paddy ?

I'm a betfair man myself

Unofficial update:

Setup has Paddy, the colours have Lowry, and they're the only ones to get off of the mark.

Question for the good lady judge:
Can I amend the scoring for this event so that points are awarded in the first three rounds for Top 5 Low Round scores? That would give all picks the chance to score points on the easier playing course.

Hmm...she hasn't scored any points, let me guess what her answer will be!  

1GrumpyGolfer wrote:

Question for the good lady judge:
Can I amend the scoring for this event so that points are awarded in the first three rounds for Top 5 Low Round scores?  That would give all picks the chance to score points on the easier playing course.

Changing the rules again ????

The R&A only change the rules every 5 years, we seem to change ours every week !!!!

Now now Setup that's not strictly true, it's only when it suits certain players!

The scoring system is not set up with this particular tour event and some others in mind. If your picks start well you have a chance to score some points in round one. Your guys make the cut after round two you get more points. There's more scoring available in round three to try and allow other players to catch up or not lose interest if they didn't have many picks through to the weekend. More points come after round four for good finishes.

In this event three different courses are used and the cut doesn't take place until after round three. The scoring is also weighted towards those who have their picks typically playing St. Andrews or Kingsbarns in round three. In my opinion it shouldn't be luck of the tee time draw that determines who gets the most points and everyone should get a fair crack at it.

Although it appears that I throw this stuff together in five minutes it ain't that quick.  It won't bother me one bit if LadyPutt says no to the proposed change as I won't have to change my templates. That said, it would have been better had I offered, or had, the scoring changes up front but I didn't put it together until when I was making my picks. The same changes to scoring should, would, also apply to The Farmers Insurance event at Torrey Pines and the Mickey Mouse, 1000, player event in South Africa as they are both played over different courses in the first two rounds.

We know all that Grumps, just pulling your leg

1GrumpyGolfer wrote:

In this event three different courses are used and the cut doesn't take place until after round three. The scoring is also weighted towards those who have their picks typically playing St. Andrews or Kingsbarns in round three. In my opinion it shouldn't be luck of the tee time draw that determines who gets the most points and everyone should get a fair crack at it.

This is LINKS golf we have here, it's all down to the tee time draw. Once the tide moves in or out, the whole course environ changes.

1GrumpyGolfer wrote:Question for the good lady judge:
Can I amend the scoring for this event so that points are awarded in the first three rounds for Top 5 Low Round scores?  That would give all picks the chance to score points on the easier playing course.

Seems sensible to me (especially if it gives me some points as LPRPitis appears to have struck again).

SetupDeterminestheMotion wrote:

1GrumpyGolfer wrote:

In this event three different courses are used and the cut doesn't take place until after round three. The scoring is also weighted towards those who have their picks typically playing St. Andrews or Kingsbarns in round three. In my opinion it shouldn't be luck of the tee time draw that determines who gets the most points and everyone should get a fair crack at it.

This is LINKS golf we have here, it's all down to the tee time draw. Once the tide moves in or out, the whole course environ changes.

Perhaps it was only me that was joking!  

It's amazing it is thought very clever that when we play a WDC (no CUT) event that Blue & 1GG (to name but two), pick the guy who is going to fare badly & subsequently pick all the points.

But it now looks frowned upon to pick the guys that play the OC last has a benefit. I'm sure we could have all looked at this from the beginning.

With my hand on my heart, I just picked players I thought would do well, & it was only after I had made the picks that I thought about the advantage & disadvantages of what course they all played first.

Fair point

FWIW I'm in favour of 1GG's suggestion - and I have no idea if it affects me or not!

A typical links event has 156 players starting early in the morning and finish late in the day, this time 56 players are on each course.  I wouldn't think the weather would have as much of an impact as a typical day on a links course.

If you tell me that you chose your picks on the basis of who's finishing at St. Andrews in round 3 then fine, I'll leave the scoring as it is.

You make a fair point on limited field, no cut events.  Going forward, worst round and last place points will not be in play.  Sound fair?

Round 1 update

Red had Lowry and Harrington takes the lead from Blue and Setup who Lowry and Harrington respectively

Nothing happened in round 2

GolfChatUK Fantasy League 2013–2014 - Summer/Autumn Session - Event #10

Alfred Dunhill Championship

Oct 02 – Oct 05 ___ St. Andrews (Old course), Carnoustie, KingsBarns, Scotland

Tournament value: Weighted 1

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Leaderboard – Round 3

Pos. Name ____________ Cuts _______ Rd1 ___ Rd2 ____ Rd3 ___ Rd4 __ Finish __ Total

1. 1GrumpyGolfer _____ 30 (5/9) ____ 00 ____ 00 ____ 40 ____ XX _____ XX ______ 70

1. Redrage ___________ 35 (6/9) ____ 20 ____ 00 ____ 10 ____ XX _____ XX ______ 65

3. BlueCoverman ______ 20 (4/9) ____ 10 ____ 00 ____ 30 ____ XX _____ XX ______ 60

3. LadyPutt __________ 30 (5/9) ____ 00 ____ 00 ____ 30 ____ XX _____ XX ______ 60

3. SetupDetermines ___ 20 (4/9) ____ 10 ____ 00 ____ 30 ____ XX _____ XX ______ 60

6. Davie _____________ 20 (3/9) ____ 00 ____ 00 ____ 20 ____ XX _____ XX ______ 40

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Tommy Fleetwood and Louis Oosthuzen shot 62s to tie for low round of the day. Thriston Lawrence shot an 80 at Kingsbarns for the worst round of the day. Fleetwood was chosen by everyone bar RedRage. The cut line fell at -4 and only 4 bonuses were awarded. RedRage was the only one to keep Category A intact. 1GrumpyGolfer, Davie, and LadyPutt have all of Category B. Davie only had Category B left. Low round scores mark was 65 and only three picks met that number.

All to play for tomorrow

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Round 3 Low Round (10 points)
Tommy Fleetwood -10
1. 1GrumpyGolfer
2. BlueCoverman
3. Davie
4. LadyPutt
5. SetupDetermines

Round 3 Low Round (10 points)
Louis Oosthuizen -10
1. None

Round 3 Worse Round (10 points)
Thriston Lawrence +8
1. None

Round 3 Low Scores (10 points)
-7 or lower

Cut Line (5 points)
-4 or lower

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GolfChatUK Fantasy League 2013–2014 - Summer/Autumn Session - Event #10

Alfred Dunhill Championship

Oct 02 – Oct 05 ___ St. Andrews (Old course), Carnoustie, KingsBarns, Scotland

Tournament value: Weighted 1

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Leaderboard – Final Round

Pos. Name ____________ Cuts _______ Rd1 ___ Rd2 ____ Rd3 ___ Rd4 __ Finish __ Total

1. BlueCoverman ______ 20 (4/9) ____ 10 ____ 00 ____ 30 ____ 00 _____ 95 _____ 155

2. SetupDetermines ___ 20 (4/9) ____ 10 ____ 00 ____ 30 ____ 00 _____ 95 _____ 155

3. 1GrumpyGolfer _____ 30 (5/9) ____ 00 ____ 00 ____ 40 ____ 00 _____ 80 _____ 150

3. LadyPutt __________ 30 (5/9) ____ 00 ____ 00 ____ 30 ____ 00 _____ 90 _____ 150

3. Redrage ___________ 35 (6/9) ____ 20 ____ 00 ____ 10 ____ 00 _____ 85 _____ 150

6. Davie _____________ 20 (3/9) ____ 00 ____ 00 ____ 20 ____ 00 _____ 50 ______ 90

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That was a close one. 5 points separates the top 5 Fantasy Leaguers as pretty much everyone had two of the runner ups in McIlroy and Fleetwood. BlueCoverman emerges victorious after the playoff determined that Shane Lowry's sixth placed finish was enough to topple SetupDetermines who had David Howell as his next best finisher at 14th.

RedRage had the most picks score points with five and that was enough to tie LadyPutt, who had three picks score points, and 1GrumpyGolfer, who had two picks score points, for third place. Davie had two picks score points but he couldn't close the gap with just three picks in play.

Chris Doak and Mark Foster had closing 66s for the best rounds of the day and Garrick Porteous had a poor day; he shot 79 to slide down the leaderboard into last place.

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Final Round Low Round (10 points)
Chris Doak -6
1. None

Final Round Low Round (10 points)
Mark Foster -6
1. None

Final Round Worse Round (10 points)
Garrick Porteous +7
1. None

Last Place (10 points)
Garrick Porteous +3
1. None

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Well played BC!

Sorry that I missed this one, hopefully back on it this week.