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Post by Davie on Thu Apr 25, 2013 9:29 pm

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Post by 1GrumpyGolfer on Wed Aug 07, 2013 4:45 am

I see an Arsenal XI are taking on Col U next week in a friendly. Looks like Sanchez Watt and Craig Eastmond will be able to say hello to their former teammates in the Academy/U-21 sides.

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Post by 1GrumpyGolfer on Wed Aug 07, 2013 9:45 am

Sorry about tonight's result Blue. Looks like you upset them by equalising.

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Post by BlueCoverman on Wed Aug 07, 2013 10:38 am

Not as much as they upset me by scoring another 4!
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Post by Mary_S on Fri Aug 09, 2013 6:22 am

Sir Rickie Lambert finally got his England call-up today. He would have been in a couple of years ago if he played for one of the "big" clubs. As he's 31, I guess it's just a token gesture, forced upon Roy by injuries.
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Post by Mary_S on Fri Aug 16, 2013 6:01 am

Not a bad debut by Sir Rickie! Innocent 

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Post by Mary_S on Wed Sep 04, 2013 8:53 pm

Massive game tonight! Wink 

Bristol City v Bristol Rovers in 1st round of the JPT. Live on Sky from 7.30 - shame that the policing bill will be much larger than the money the clubs get from Sky.

Looks like it's almost sold out - around 17,000. Unfortunately Rovers were only given around 2,500 tickets, never made it to general sale.
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Post by BlueCoverman on Wed Sep 04, 2013 9:37 pm

Will John Ward be able to cope?...he was only used to crowds of about 3,500 at Col U!  
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Post by BlueCoverman on Thu Sep 05, 2013 10:31 pm

Was is you who started all that trouble at the end last night Mary?   Wink
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Post by Mary_S on Fri Sep 06, 2013 9:16 pm

Not guilty M'lud!  


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Post by BlueCoverman on Fri Sep 13, 2013 1:28 am

So how do we feel about the result in the Ukraine on Tuesday night then? Pleased that wins in our last two remaining home games will see us through, or dejected in the knowledge that draws in 4 of our 8 qualifying matches means that if we do qualify for Brazil our visit will probably only be a short one?
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Post by 1GrumpyGolfer on Fri Sep 13, 2013 1:46 am

We've had four wins by beating both minnows home and away yet have struggled against the better teams in the group failing to win against them so far. What makes us so sure that will we beat Poland and Montenegro? Like you say, I doubt half of the other nations in Brazil next year will be quaking that we qualify.

Why can't we blow away a group like the Dutch? Is it part and parcel that we field teams that are tactically unsure of what to do? Why do we have players being asked to play out of position? Do we still pick on reputation rather than form? Although the recent call up and inclusion of Rickie Lambert hopefully means that's coming to an end.

That said if it was fixed and we did blow away the group and qualify comfortably what we would have to talk about?

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Post by BlueCoverman on Fri Sep 13, 2013 2:05 am

1GrumpyGolfer wrote:That said if it was fixed and we did blow away the group and qualify comfortably what we would have to talk about?
Loads...we're still talking about 1966!  
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Post by 1GrumpyGolfer on Fri Sep 13, 2013 3:05 am

BlueCoverman wrote:
1GrumpyGolfer wrote:That said if it was fixed and we did blow away the group and qualify comfortably what we would have to talk about?
Loads...we're still talking about 1966!  
No, we're only talking about that 'cos it was our last taste of success. But the bookies would be having a field day.

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Post by Davie on Fri Sep 13, 2013 5:43 am

Hodgson is a conservative manager who wants to get the job done. I think he's been fine so far with a team that was totally humiliated in 2010 ... let's see how he does when the pressure really comes on
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Post by Mary_S on Fri Sep 13, 2013 7:04 pm

I see that Lambert is getting a bit of a mauling from some of the national media - too slow, not enough skill to bring the high ball down and hold it up, etc etc. Hopefully Roy will give him another go, in a full strength squad.

BC - I see that Wardy has been back for another raid on your squad. We have Andy Bond on a month's loan - any thoughts, or are you glad to see the back of him? Innocent 
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Post by BlueCoverman on Fri Sep 13, 2013 11:07 pm

John Ward signed Andy from non-league Barrow and initially he did pretty well for us. He is full of energy and running and scored a few goals including a couple of useful long range efforts. However in a pre-season friendly against Ipswich in 2011 he suffered a horrendous facial injury in an accidental collision with our own goalkeeper. It looked horrible probably the worst injury I have ever seen during a football match, he lost several teeth and the ref abandoned the game albeit that it was quite close to the end.
 
Personally I don't think he has been quite the same player since that incident (can't say I blame him!) and I am not surprised to see him go out on loan again. He did score the winner at Gillingham in the first game of the season last month which got us off to a good start and I wish him all the best in teaming up with JW again.
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Post by Mary_S on Fri Sep 13, 2013 11:13 pm

Cheers BC - I think JW is hoping that he can bolster our strike force. Cross Fingers 
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Post by Davie on Tue Oct 15, 2013 6:31 am

England/Poland tomorrow ... will we get through? I'd like to think we should but old enough to remember 74(?)

Surely we've enough talent and experience to prevail against the team currently 4th in the group?
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Post by BlueCoverman on Tue Oct 15, 2013 6:46 am

73 Davie but you were close...Brian Clough calling the Polish keeper a clown all night but it was the Poles who had the last laugh!
 
Bit of a bizarre coincidence that it is 40 years since that night but I think we will win tomorrow. Certainly hope so, the media vultures are already circling overhead just in case we don't.
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Post by Davie on Tue Oct 15, 2013 6:41 pm

Ah yes 73 ... It was for qualification in the 74 finals. Got mixed up!
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Post by BlueCoverman on Wed Oct 16, 2013 10:46 am

Well I really enjoyed that...the last 4 minutes that is cheers 

The previous 88 I was a nervous wreck
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Post by Mary_S on Thu Oct 17, 2013 9:21 pm

Still wondering if that was really an England match - it was entertaining, if a little nerve wracking! Great atmosphere in the stadium too.

Didn't take long for the press to put a downer on things though - apparently Roy is a racist. Rolling Eyes 
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Post by Davie on Fri Oct 18, 2013 12:29 am

Agreed Mary - there should be an enquiry into who leaked the story!

I see Ash Cole is already denying it was him .. even though he wasn't even there!

I reckon it was Townsend and he's now back tracking
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Post by BlueCoverman on Fri Oct 18, 2013 1:33 am

Unbelievable. Only in this country would the press do that to the national manager in his moment of glory
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Post by BlueCoverman on Fri Nov 01, 2013 5:23 am

Lovely moment at Col U last Saturday against Peterborough. Young lad from the academy youth team comes on for us as a second half substitute, making his first team debut and on his 18th birthday...10 minutes later scores the only goal of the game with a cracking header
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Post by Mary_S on Fri Nov 01, 2013 6:13 am

That's the stuff that dreams are made of Blue. Hopefully it's the first of many for him.

P.S. What's his name - maybe JW could negotiate a loan deal for Rovers? Innocent 
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Post by 1GrumpyGolfer on Fri Nov 01, 2013 7:14 am

Noticed you got quite a result on Saturday Blue, tiny piece of revenge for earlier in the season?

Don't tell 'em your name Pike!

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Post by BlueCoverman on Fri Nov 01, 2013 8:33 am

Definitely Mary, it was a bit of a Roy of the Rovers moment. Macauley Bonne is his name but I don't think Joe Dunne will be letting him go anywhere soon, not even to his old boss JW!
 
It was Grumps indeed and a very welcome 3 points, our first win since 10th August.
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Post by Mary_S on Wed Nov 06, 2013 1:14 am

ROI to appoint Martin O'Neil and Roy Keane as the new management team.

Will this be the dream team or an epic failure? Personally, I'd love to see them suceed - I seem to be one of the few people who actually likes Roy Keane!
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Post by Davie on Wed Nov 06, 2013 1:45 am

One of the few Mary? I think you're the ONLY one! ;-)
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Post by 1GrumpyGolfer on Wed Nov 06, 2013 2:28 am

His autobiography showed him to be a very strange bloke and it was written in a strange manner too. It was almost like there was a synopsis at the start of every chapter and a few pages in you got the feeling of having read some of this before; very peculiar.

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Post by Mary_S on Thu Nov 07, 2013 8:58 pm

I haven't read his autobiography GG, will have to keep an eye out for it in the bargain book shops! Wink 

I liked the Guardian's definition of O'Neil and Keane - "Bad Cop and Cop Who Should Probably Be Investigated By An Independent Commission".

On a different note, good to see the that things seem to be coming together for Arsene Wenger - elder Statesman of the Premier League now that Fergie's gone. Great result last night.
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Post by 1GrumpyGolfer on Thu Nov 07, 2013 9:59 pm

Maybe look in the library, I wouldn't pay money for it.

Yep, nice result last night. Dortmund need to get a win at Napoli now and I think there's a very good chance teams in this group will end up level on points.

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Post by Davie on Fri Nov 08, 2013 12:28 am

I'd have happily taken a draw from Dortmund last night. The win was well deserved though.
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Post by 1GrumpyGolfer on Sat Dec 07, 2013 4:21 am

Missed the easy group by 1 pick. Last 16 looks like it will be an achievement now. Looks to be several groups of death: B and G spring to mind.

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Post by Mary_S on Sat Dec 07, 2013 4:56 am

Didn't you just know that England weren't going to get Group E? Bit early to be too pessimistic, but I wouldn't stake any money on us getting beyond the Group stages.
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Post by 1GrumpyGolfer on Sat Dec 07, 2013 5:33 am

They'll definitely be more rumblings of French fixing with them in the easy group. However would we want France anymore than Italy. There's a long way to go but here's hoping Suarez gets a good kicking in the last Liverpool match of the season.

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Post by Davie on Sat Dec 07, 2013 7:51 am

I don't think the group is too bad ... not after all the prophesies of doom that were going around! I can think of worse Euro teams to be drawn with than Italy and worse S.American teams than Uruguay.

Yes it could have been better and some of the venues aren't great but it could have been worse

Won't be easy to get out of the group but no group would be
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Post by Noshanking on Sun Dec 08, 2013 7:47 am

To win you have to beat the best, you might as well face them from the outset.....
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Post by Mary_S on Fri Jan 03, 2014 6:03 pm

Will Ole and Vincent be a match made in heaven?

A gamble for both parties, it will be interesting to watch how this pans out.
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Post by 1GrumpyGolfer on Mon Jan 06, 2014 1:01 am

That was embarrasing for West Ham. What will this result do to the youngsters that West Ham put out? I know it's a squad game now and that they've got injuries, suspensions, and a big game coming in the week but taking off the experienced players and abandoning the kids was terrible. You could see the heads dropping and shoulders slumping almost everytime they lost the ball, misplaced the pass, and got sliced apart by a Forest side that looked like they were going to score everytime they went forward.

West Ham fans were chanting Paolo Di Canio's name at the end; ironic, gallows humour or wishful thinking?

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Post by BlueCoverman on Mon Jan 06, 2014 5:20 am

Blair Turgot one of the youngsters who played in the second half for West Ham today was on loan at Col U last month. He may be on a poor run of form at the moment and lacking a bit in confidence but he did not stand out at league 1 level, like most of the players from premiership clubs that we have had on loan in the past.

A difficult one for Sam Allardyce today, I can understand the reasons why he fielded such an under strength side but after such a heavy defeat he may regret causing himself a bit more pressure than was really necessary.

I think a lot of West Ham fans would like to see Paolo in the manager's chair at some stage, they love him. Whether that would be in the best interests of the future success of the club I'm not so sure.
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Post by 1GrumpyGolfer on Thu Jan 09, 2014 2:29 pm

Oh dear, that didn't work out so well then for Big Sam. The bigger boys were back for West Ham but they run into someone bigger that gave them a peanut and stole their dinner money. It must be bad when the winners can't even remember the score; Dzeko looked a little sheepish when he was corrected on the final score.

I wonder if Big Sam is worried about his job now? The last manager to lose 5-0 and 6-0 in close succession was relieved of his duties shortly after that happened. Seeing as they're very unlikely to turn this around it looks like they can concentrate on the league now so maybe he got what he wanted. I suppose it means he can rest players for the second leg now.

In happier news Mary must be a happy Rover after John-Joe O'Toole inspired a comeback in the last 10 minutes to set up a third round tie with Birmingham.

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Post by Mary_S on Fri Jan 10, 2014 7:14 am

Still on cloud 9 here GG!  Cool  The first time in 86 games that we have gone behind and then come back to win - maybe the tide is turning!

A loss at Cardiff on Saturday, and I reckon that Big Sam will be getting his P45. Despite the 6-0 deficit, the West Ham fans will have to shell out a minimum of £39 for a ticket to the 2nd leg!  affraid 
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Post by 1GrumpyGolfer on Fri Jan 10, 2014 7:50 am

I don't think there's a lot of wiggle room for Big Sam but would the businessman at West Ham risk changing the manager with not much time available in the transfer window?

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Post by BlueCoverman on Fri Jan 10, 2014 8:11 pm

A good player that John-Joe O'Toole Mary, I can't believe his previous club let him go!
 
Will be expensive to sack Sam, I read somewhere that he is the 13th highest paid football manager in the world! Can't see that there will be a full house for the 2nd leg at those prices with the tie effectively over.
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Post by 1GrumpyGolfer on Sun Jan 12, 2014 4:51 am

I hope you didn't leave early Blue. Nice win to keep the recent good spell going.

Well, well done West Ham. Rode their luck on occasion and were fortunate to not give away a penalty a couple of times. It was a frantic, cup style, end to end game to start but lost some of its energy after the long injury delay. They took their chance well after unlocking Cardiff's offside trap. Andy Carroll made his long awaited and anticipated comeback in the second half and did very well; he was a bit rusty with his touch at times but held the ball up very well and linked play when he could. He was vital to West Ham hanging on in the second half after Tomkins was sent off and he made the second goal in stoppage time as West Ham suckered Cardiff. West Ham deserved the victory in the end as Cardiff never really did enough for me to get back into it. But that win has come with a huge cost; Demel will be out for a long time and Tomkins will be banned after gettting himself fit. Big Sam and the owners will take it and they'll probably have placed a lot more emphasis on this game rather than their recent cup games.

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Post by BlueCoverman on Sun Jan 12, 2014 7:06 am

No I didn't Grumps. At £28 a ticket and £6 to park the car, whether it's good or bad you won't find me leaving before the final whistle!
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Post by BlueCoverman on Sat Jan 25, 2014 3:54 am

England will avoid Germany and Spain in Euro 2016 qualifying after being named as one of the top seeds. Italy, Holland, Portugal, Greece, Russia, and Bosnia-Hercegovina are the other top seeds in qualifying.
 
The Republic of Ireland are among the second seeds, with Scotland and Wales among the fourth seeds and Northern Ireland among the fifth.
 
The draw will take place in Nice on 23 February. The question is will we go on to win consecutive trophies after picking up the World Cup in Brazil this summer?  Innocent
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Post by Mary_S on Sat Feb 08, 2014 4:51 pm

John Ward has brought in another ex Colchester Utd player to save us! Steve Gillespie signed until the end of the season. He held the scoring record for Liverpool schoolboys, eventually overtaken by Rooney - hope that he's still got some goals in him!  Cross Fingers Any thoughts Blue?
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