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Football talking points

Post by Davie on Tue Jan 24, 2012 7:14 am

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Rather than hijack the "which team do you support" thread where some of these are being talked about...

Some of the events of the weekend that are getting people talking

1) Mario Balotelli: plenty to say about him in general but specifically the alleged stamp on Scott Parker and his subsequent charge by the FA

2) Lescott's elbow on Kaboul(?) - FA say no charge to answer

3) Conspiracy theories in general about Man City!

4) Wenger's decision to take Chamberlain off and put Arshavin on - and Van Persie's reaction

5) Peter Crouch and the "eye-gouge"

6) Harry Redknapp and the tax-dodging allegations and court case

Discuss!
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Re: Football talking points

Post by raycastleunited on Mon Mar 05, 2012 2:55 am

So avb finally got the boot. Hardly surprising, but the timing is strange. Will they find a replacements before the end of the season?
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Re: Football talking points

Post by 1GrumpyGolfer on Mon Mar 05, 2012 4:11 am

I think they'll hold on for the rest of the season and then make approaches for the guy they want. Can't quite understand why Mourinho would want to go back? It's a bit like the Cutting Edge documentary on the England manager job; the impossible job.

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Re: Football talking points

Post by Davie on Wed Mar 07, 2012 7:36 am

Come on you GOONERS!

What seemed a lost cause is now looking a possibility

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Re: Football talking points

Post by 1GrumpyGolfer on Wed Mar 07, 2012 7:50 am

Holy cow batman. This could be one of the greatest comebacks of all time. Fingers crossed for the second half to be more of the same.

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Re: Football talking points

Post by diggers on Wed Mar 07, 2012 8:10 am

Up the Arse. Come on Gooners.

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Re: Football talking points

Post by Davie on Wed Mar 07, 2012 8:36 am

Not to be ... but a great effort they can take a lot of positives from

3-0 against Milan is not a result to be ignored. Bad luck Arsenal
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Re: Football talking points

Post by venice1 on Wed Mar 07, 2012 9:06 am

Missed opportunities for both sides in the 2nd half. Seems like Arsenal was playing on reserve energy from about the 70 minute mark. Milan controlled the tempo from there to the end. It all boils down to Chelsea next week for the Premier teams. Have to believe Napoli will be psyched up.
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Re: Football talking points

Post by raycastleunited on Wed Mar 07, 2012 9:23 am

Davie wrote:Not to be ... but a great effort they can take a lot of positives from

3-0 against Milan is not a result to be ignored. Bad luck Arsenal

sorry davie but it is to be ignored. Milan were complacent and didn't turn up in the first half. But ultimately they did enough to progress and that is all that matters. Many more positives from the spurs and Liverpool games.
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Re: Football talking points

Post by JAS on Thu Mar 08, 2012 9:03 am

Just when you get so disillusioned with football and how money has ruined it and are on the verge of giving up any interest in it whatsoever in watching overpaid overhyped nobodies....along comes a Barcelona performance that reminds you why millions of people love the game...awesome, just awesome.
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Re: Football talking points

Post by MustPuttBetter on Thu Mar 08, 2012 8:27 pm

Does anyone else think this Messi is too small? He'll never make it Innocent

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Re: Football talking points

Post by ChrisGG on Fri Mar 09, 2012 12:27 am

Messi's decent, but could he do it on a cold windy night in Stoke? Evil or Very Mad
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Re: Football talking points

Post by super_realist on Fri Mar 09, 2012 12:53 am

Anyone else wetting themselves at Ranger's demise?

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Re: Football talking points

Post by PaulWill80 on Fri Mar 09, 2012 9:35 pm

Thanks for the information.


GED Schools

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Re: Football talking points

Post by MustPuttBetter on Fri Mar 09, 2012 9:42 pm

PaulWill80 wrote:Thanks for the information.


GED Schools

Huh?

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Re: Football talking points

Post by diggers on Tue Mar 13, 2012 9:31 am

Oh my dear lord, as a Sunderland fan that was very funny. Walcott now looking the business , that was a great cross at the end. Some end product at last.

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Re: Football talking points

Post by Maverick on Wed Mar 14, 2012 7:55 pm

Firstly:

Terry comes out and says there is no player power at Chelsea! Right ok that's why the players openly flaunted rules that AVB set.

He also thanks Capello for standing down as a sign of support! For a racist.

Terry really is an arsehole and I'd love to see him not on the plane for the Euros

Secondly:Wonder if 'Arry is having squeky bum time as his Spurs are now only a point ahead of Arsenal how I'd love it if we stole 3rd place from the lilwhites and Diggers agree finally Walcott learns to cross.

Thirdly: this may sound harsh or bitter but there's a huge part of me wanting both Rangers and Pompey to cease to exist through their poor money management as a lesson to all of football you simpy cannot keep spending what you don't have.

Finally: Yes Everton lost but congratulations to David Moyes for 10years in the job in a time where the life expectency of a manager is down to as little as 7months these days, done a great job on a shoestring budget for years
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Re: Football talking points

Post by MustPuttBetter on Wed Mar 14, 2012 8:37 pm

What are people's views on Moyes?
No doubt he's done a good job with Everton, which is as much to say they haven't been relegated and are therefore still amongst the Premier League big money. But i do wonder if he wouldn't have been given the push by now were they not the least ambitious football club in the world.

Let's face it, his 'honours' with Everton amount to - FA Cup runner up 2009. That's it. They haven't exactly moved forwards for around 5 years now and give the impression of a very stale club to me.

When you look at clubs like Wolves sacking McCarthy, Hudderfield sacking Clark, Arsenal fans wanting the back of Wenger, i do suspect Moyes longevity in that job is less to do with him and more to do with the clubs desire, or non desire, to rock the boat

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Re: Football talking points

Post by diggers on Wed Mar 14, 2012 8:50 pm

Everton have a steady chairman but zero ambition. That said if they had ambition they might be bankrupt...or in a better position with a few trophys.
My main criticism of Moyes is I find his sides incredibly dull to watch. That said we never beat them and I was gutted we got them away in the cup, hopefully the MON magic will carry on working though.

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Re: Football talking points

Post by Maverick on Wed Mar 14, 2012 8:57 pm

I'd totally agree with everything diggers says there.

Everton have the most unambitious board in the EPL. Moyes is rarely given anything to spend so has to form a workman like team but they are stable and you never hear of much in way of losses financially from them

they are hard to beat but very poor to watch, but he's lasted 10years so cant be doing much wrong, have to wonder though when i hear his name touted for bigger jobs if he could actually work with more money and more talent!
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Re: Football talking points

Post by diggers on Wed Mar 14, 2012 10:22 pm

Rangers were always my side in Scottish terms do I'd rather they stayed afloat , don't really care about Pompey to be honest.
I think it's worth pointing out that although football clubs are badly run they are hardly alone in this, I can think of a few banks and even accountancy firms who are hardly whiter than white. Plus virtually every small business will try and wing a few things, VAT or cash in hand work. And who here hasn't paid someone cash to save a few quid ? Small scale but it all adds up.
So let's not get too precious about things.


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Re: Football talking points

Post by Maverick on Wed Mar 14, 2012 10:25 pm

Totally right there Diggers, nobody is whiter than white, we've all cut corners somewhere.

My issue with the pompey situation is they've gone from one person to another and another etc over the years all trying shave money somewhere so imo enough is enough and hmrc should wind them up
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Re: Football talking points

Post by MustPuttBetter on Wed Mar 14, 2012 10:37 pm

I think the difference between firms like accountancies and banks or football clubs is the consequences.

If an accountancy firm or almost any other business really, lives beyond it's means and handles it's affairs badly it goes pop - Arthur Andersen anyone?

In contrast, if a bank lives beyond it's means it gets recused by the taxpayer. If a football club lives beyond it's means it - most of the time - simply comes back with different owners under penalty of 10 points.

I think that's why some people wouldn't mind seeing Pompey go bust.
In layman's terms - it's only fair

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Re: Football talking points

Post by diggers on Wed Mar 14, 2012 10:47 pm

A company I work for did a prepack administration sale MPB, completely unethical but very common. And I launched my own business on the back of it. It's just the way the world works sometimes.

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Re: Football talking points

Post by MustPuttBetter on Wed Mar 14, 2012 10:53 pm

Oh it happens Digs. I'm not sure it's very common but it happens, however i would bet my house that the proportion of real businesses that come back and carry on regardless after administration is enormously less than the proportion of football clubs which do so,
More often than not if a business fails it fails, more than 50% of new businesses do so. Whereas if a football club fails, it comes back intact to fail again and again and again

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Re: Football talking points

Post by diggers on Wed Mar 14, 2012 11:03 pm

True enough fella. And it's all in the public eye which doesn't help.

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Re: Football talking points

Post by MustPuttBetter on Wed Mar 14, 2012 11:05 pm

Indeedy
Plus of course the players in particular are already seen as over pampered so and so's. Doesn't exactly garner as much sympathy as 80 year old Bert's butcher shop that went bust!

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Re: Football talking points

Post by JAS on Thu Mar 15, 2012 8:10 am

super_realist wrote:Anyone else wetting themselves at Ranger's demise?

Looks like you wet your's prematurely...Kennedy willing to step in if nobody else looks like doing so reliably.

So...sorry to p1ss on your biscuits but...liquidation ain't going to happen.

It's not so long ago Borussia Dortmund were in administration...look at them now.
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Re: Football talking points

Post by venice1 on Thu Mar 15, 2012 8:34 am

Extra time!
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Re: Football talking points

Post by Maverick on Fri Mar 16, 2012 12:10 am

Barcalona left back Eric Abidal is to have a Liver transplant! Career over or is it possible to resume after?
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Re: Football talking points

Post by super_realist on Fri Mar 16, 2012 12:22 am

JAS wrote:
super_realist wrote:Anyone else wetting themselves at Ranger's demise?

Looks like you wet your's prematurely...Kennedy willing to step in if nobody else looks like doing so reliably.

So...sorry to p1ss on your biscuits but...liquidation ain't going to happen.

It's not so long ago Borussia Dortmund were in administration...look at them now.

Dortmund are a massive team in a proper league, there is an appetite for the product. No one cares about the SPL or Rangers.
Far more likely that Rangers will do a Leeds/Portsmouth than a Dortmund.

Not to mention that Kennedy's heart isn't in it.

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Re: Football talking points

Post by diggers on Fri Mar 16, 2012 12:34 am

There is no way Celtic or Rangers will ever go under, too much grass roots support. They might need to cut their cloth accordingly in the future but they will survive.

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Post by MustPuttBetter on Fri Mar 16, 2012 12:43 am

Maverick wrote:Barcalona left back Eric Abidal is to have a Liver transplant! Career over or is it possible to resume after?

Considering he's 45 now Innocent i'd be amazed if he came back after this. The recovery must be what, a year at least surely?
He already had the liver op last year and came back before the CL final. If he comes back after this he must have one serious appitite for playing football!

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Re: Football talking points

Post by Maverick on Fri Mar 16, 2012 12:53 am

45!!!

Had to stop and wonder there does feel like he's been around for eon's much like Lillian Thuram was. Lillian what a stupid name for a man bloody french!

Wasn't aware of his his previous liver op! But I guess he can afford the best care possible.
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Re: Football talking points

Post by 1GrumpyGolfer on Sun Mar 18, 2012 12:07 am

Nice strike from Bardsley, Diggers. Possibly lucky not to give away a pen before that but looks to be a fast and frantic cup tie so far with 20 mins gone

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Re: Football talking points

Post by 1GrumpyGolfer on Sun Mar 18, 2012 12:13 am

Sorry Digs just jinxed you. I'll shut up now. Nice to see Neville taking a few kicks.

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Post by diggers on Sun Mar 18, 2012 12:13 am

Bloody Cahill...aaarrgghh. Just got to hang on in there Grumps. Good match for the neutral.

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Post by 1GrumpyGolfer on Sun Mar 18, 2012 12:17 am

I deleted Bendtner off of my previous post as I had a feeling he would get a card and then Neville falls over like a pansy and Bendtner gets a yellow.

Lots of blood and thunder challenges, sending off coming?

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Re: Football talking points

Post by diggers on Sun Mar 18, 2012 12:20 am

Quite possibly but hope not. Is a match where we could really have used Clattermole, idiotic ban he got himself from the derby though.

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Post by diggers on Sun Mar 18, 2012 12:21 am

By the way, Poulter and Bentner, long lost twins ?

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Post by 1GrumpyGolfer on Sun Mar 18, 2012 12:24 am

Yeah, but if Cattermole was playing he would get sent off in a game like this.

Probably separated at birth, same dress sense and colour blindness. But as a gooner I have a rose tinted view of both of them.

Some reaction save by Mignolet and he twatted Heitinga at the same time.

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Post by diggers on Sun Mar 18, 2012 12:27 am

Seen Clatters at Rockcliffe Hall, he's a member there which is funny as Boros training ground is there but it is an excellent course. Decent golfer apparently. Decent footballer as well, shame about the temper.

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Post by 1GrumpyGolfer on Sun Mar 18, 2012 12:32 am

They just showed a picture in the crowd, even then he looked a little hostile, now wonder he is seen as a combative midfielder.

Seems to have calmed down a little now.

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Post by diggers on Sun Mar 18, 2012 12:36 am

Good half, anyone's game. Interesting stat about MON's unbeaten record against Moyes. He clearly knows how to play against him. I'd take a draw right now though.

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Post by diggers on Sun Mar 18, 2012 1:44 am

Very happy with that, decent chance at the SOL to win the tie.

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Post by 1GrumpyGolfer on Sun Mar 18, 2012 1:50 am

Second time lucky, eh Digs. Didn't really see the second half so not sure what happened. Didn't hear too much excitement off of the tv so was it relatively even?

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Post by diggers on Sun Mar 18, 2012 2:00 am

I'd say mainly them really Grumps as to be expected. Need a bit of luck really.

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Re: Football talking points

Post by 1GrumpyGolfer on Sun Mar 18, 2012 2:15 am

Well anything can happen on that cabbage patch of a pitch of yours

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Re: Football talking points

Post by diggers on Sun Mar 18, 2012 2:23 am

It is a shocker, and we do try and play a bit so shouldn't really help us. Getting replaced in the summer I believe after a few concerts churn up the current one even more.

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Re: Football talking points

Post by Maverick on Sun Mar 18, 2012 5:32 am

Anyone know what's going on at the lane! What I'm hearing on Talksport is Fabrice Muambe has collapsed and required emergency resus before being taken off and the games currently suspended!!!
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Re: Football talking points

Post by Mary_S on Sun Mar 18, 2012 5:47 am

Game has been abandoned Mav.
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